Aircraft carrier floated as hotel in NZ
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Aircraft carrier floated as hotel in NZ
From today's despatches:
Aircraft carrier floated as hotel in NZ
01 September 2003
SYDNEY: New Zealand entrepreneurs have expressed interest in purchasing an old Australian aircraft carrier for use as a floating hotel.
The Royal Australian Navy's (RAN) former flagship, HMAS Vengeance, is for sale at $A7 million($NZ7.92 million), with a for sale notice in Trader Boat magazine attracting plenty of interest.
The 18,000 tonne vessel was built by the Royal Navy in 1942 and was lent to the RAN in 1952. It spent eight years in Australia before heading to Brazil.
It was decommissioned in 2001.
Boat broker John Britton, from Victorian company John Saxon Bryant and Associates, said he had fielded calls from New Zealand and Australia from people wanting to use the carrier, which sleeps 1300, as a floating hotel.
"It would make a great entertainment centre or hotel with car parking facilities for 200-300," Mr Britton said.
Aircraft carrier floated as hotel in NZ
01 September 2003
SYDNEY: New Zealand entrepreneurs have expressed interest in purchasing an old Australian aircraft carrier for use as a floating hotel.
The Royal Australian Navy's (RAN) former flagship, HMAS Vengeance, is for sale at $A7 million($NZ7.92 million), with a for sale notice in Trader Boat magazine attracting plenty of interest.
The 18,000 tonne vessel was built by the Royal Navy in 1942 and was lent to the RAN in 1952. It spent eight years in Australia before heading to Brazil.
It was decommissioned in 2001.
Boat broker John Britton, from Victorian company John Saxon Bryant and Associates, said he had fielded calls from New Zealand and Australia from people wanting to use the carrier, which sleeps 1300, as a floating hotel.
"It would make a great entertainment centre or hotel with car parking facilities for 200-300," Mr Britton said.
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See
www.fleetairarmarchive.net/vengeance/News.html
Our last WW2-built carrier. Looks like there is an effort being made to get her back to Blighty.
www.fleetairarmarchive.net/vengeance/News.html
Our last WW2-built carrier. Looks like there is an effort being made to get her back to Blighty.
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I have recently been on her. The ship is in amazingly good nick, and seems to be in virtually full working order. The A4 airwing was transferred some time ago to the carrier NAeL Sao Paulo (formally the Frog 'Foch').
From my quick tour of the ship, the future owner will have a major asbestos problem! I hope she gets preserved for posterity.
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From my quick tour of the ship, the future owner will have a major asbestos problem! I hope she gets preserved for posterity.
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Its another Helen Clarke Scam!
Not convinced the government isn't using the hotel industry as a front to re-commission her, strap the unsold Skyhawks on and lease it back to the Aussies......a similar thing has been done before if my memory serves me correctly.
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Nothing would surprise me Fox3, but dear Helengrad isn't having a happy week of it.
Just like her contemporary Tony Bliar, some of Atilla the Hen's wee fibs are starting to catch up with her. This time it's to do with telling Joe Public one or two porkies about how much she knew about some genetically modified corn which slipped into NZ through the cracks (read: gaping holes) in biosecurity.
She's also managed to upset the Greens (read: Reds) who prop up her minority Government, ruling them out of any future coalition, as well as the right-wing, Christian-based United Future Party, who, for no readily explicable reason, are part of it.
Dear Helen has taken to referring to herself in the third person ("The Prime Minister believes...." etc) and wondering publicly whether she may have become "a victim of my own success as a popular and competent Prime Minister". (??!!)
She has taken such a battering during Question Time in the House of late that these days, she's seldom to be found in it, leaving the answers to her eminently capable and extremely unpopular deputy, and preferring to spend her time out of the country, on photo ops, fraternising with the world's socialist elite, and furthering her claim to a seat on the UN Secretariat.
Hard on the heels of previously exposed fibs, such as claiming to have painted artworks which were actually done by someone else, past fibs about who was actually responsible for the deaths of some nine women who fell victim to a faulty cervical cancer screening programme (she was Minister of Health, a hapless doctor got the blame, you can guess the rest), and more recent fibs concerning the aquisition by the NZ Army of the unutterably useless LAV3, it is apparent that the wheels are beginning to come off Helen's credibility.
It never ceases to amaze me that the shallow, ill-informed, and egotistical academics of the New Left are arrogant enough to believe that they are brighter than the rest of us, yet not bright enough to realise that their arrogance, shallowness, and lack of understanding is plainly obvious.
It is difficult at this point to see quite how Helengrad's administration will manage to see out the remaining two years of it's electorally alloted term; no other New Zealand Government has gone the full three years under MMP, and those which have failed before have done so under better circumstances.
Meantime, the parties of the right (who actually scored a majority if one includes United) continue to grow in popularity; and more importantly, in an understanding of the mistakes which lead to them being unable to form a Government last time round.
I give Helengrad's mob twelve more months, tops, and my gut tells me that this is on the generous side. It doesn't take account for what may happen after the GE moratorium ends next month; and now, the Greens don't have any reason to support her.
The RNZAF has not died, Gentlemen and Ladies. It does but sleep. Have faith, be with us, and do not be tempted to afford undue regard to the views of those who have plucked the phrase "it will never be again" from thin air, and who have done so for dubious and ill-explained reasons.
Just like her contemporary Tony Bliar, some of Atilla the Hen's wee fibs are starting to catch up with her. This time it's to do with telling Joe Public one or two porkies about how much she knew about some genetically modified corn which slipped into NZ through the cracks (read: gaping holes) in biosecurity.
She's also managed to upset the Greens (read: Reds) who prop up her minority Government, ruling them out of any future coalition, as well as the right-wing, Christian-based United Future Party, who, for no readily explicable reason, are part of it.
Dear Helen has taken to referring to herself in the third person ("The Prime Minister believes...." etc) and wondering publicly whether she may have become "a victim of my own success as a popular and competent Prime Minister". (??!!)
She has taken such a battering during Question Time in the House of late that these days, she's seldom to be found in it, leaving the answers to her eminently capable and extremely unpopular deputy, and preferring to spend her time out of the country, on photo ops, fraternising with the world's socialist elite, and furthering her claim to a seat on the UN Secretariat.
Hard on the heels of previously exposed fibs, such as claiming to have painted artworks which were actually done by someone else, past fibs about who was actually responsible for the deaths of some nine women who fell victim to a faulty cervical cancer screening programme (she was Minister of Health, a hapless doctor got the blame, you can guess the rest), and more recent fibs concerning the aquisition by the NZ Army of the unutterably useless LAV3, it is apparent that the wheels are beginning to come off Helen's credibility.
It never ceases to amaze me that the shallow, ill-informed, and egotistical academics of the New Left are arrogant enough to believe that they are brighter than the rest of us, yet not bright enough to realise that their arrogance, shallowness, and lack of understanding is plainly obvious.
It is difficult at this point to see quite how Helengrad's administration will manage to see out the remaining two years of it's electorally alloted term; no other New Zealand Government has gone the full three years under MMP, and those which have failed before have done so under better circumstances.
Meantime, the parties of the right (who actually scored a majority if one includes United) continue to grow in popularity; and more importantly, in an understanding of the mistakes which lead to them being unable to form a Government last time round.
I give Helengrad's mob twelve more months, tops, and my gut tells me that this is on the generous side. It doesn't take account for what may happen after the GE moratorium ends next month; and now, the Greens don't have any reason to support her.
The RNZAF has not died, Gentlemen and Ladies. It does but sleep. Have faith, be with us, and do not be tempted to afford undue regard to the views of those who have plucked the phrase "it will never be again" from thin air, and who have done so for dubious and ill-explained reasons.
If you resurrect your combat air wing, will we have to give back all your blokes who came over here?
I have met a couple of kiwis at Valley and Coltishall, and I must say it was one of the best manpower-acquisition decisions the RAF has made for a while.
It brings back memories of 1940, with all the Springboks, Canucks, Aussies and Kiwis in the RAF today!
I have met a couple of kiwis at Valley and Coltishall, and I must say it was one of the best manpower-acquisition decisions the RAF has made for a while.
It brings back memories of 1940, with all the Springboks, Canucks, Aussies and Kiwis in the RAF today!
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Just in time for the Amercia's Cup (oops!)
One report states that the aircraft carrier in question has been offered a berth in Truro (UK). Perhaps my memory doesn't serve me well, but I remember running aground in a Bilge Keeler near the Tesco supermarket a few years ago. Can't quite see how CV will fit in there. But it might fit in the Viaduct Basin, Auckland (I understand there is some spare space now!).
The comments on Commizar Helen are interesting, to say the least. I see that she does not wish to give evidence to the Corngate inquiry; funnily, last year I had to pay a $200 fine at AKL for importing a lemon which had mysteriously slipped into my suitcase. Perhaps I should have declined to cooperate on the grounds that it was a circus!
With respect to reforming the ACF in the RNZAF, perhaps a handful of RAF officers should come out and write a report, order a stack of modern aircraft and then depart, leaving the Kiwis to it (oh, that's right, it's been done before!).
Crash
The comments on Commizar Helen are interesting, to say the least. I see that she does not wish to give evidence to the Corngate inquiry; funnily, last year I had to pay a $200 fine at AKL for importing a lemon which had mysteriously slipped into my suitcase. Perhaps I should have declined to cooperate on the grounds that it was a circus!
With respect to reforming the ACF in the RNZAF, perhaps a handful of RAF officers should come out and write a report, order a stack of modern aircraft and then depart, leaving the Kiwis to it (oh, that's right, it's been done before!).
Crash
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LAV3 details
Great to hear that Uncle Helen is to defend the LAV3 purchase. I still can't believe that it went ahead, as nobody in the military (below WGCDR level anyway) seemed to have anything favourable to say about them. From what I remember, they couldn't fit in a Herc, they couldn't operate in the water, and the government wanted to buy double the amount that the army actually wanted. Sounds like a great purchase if you only want to operate in the Waiouru Desert - unless they were also planning on buying C-17s and big rubber floaties !! Maybe Helen was going to paint them (or get someone else to for her) in a nice pink and rainbow scheme, so as not to upset the enemy. Oh, and take those awful bang-sticks off those painted green men as well. 
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Bring it back to the Thames and turn it into a prison hulk, we have plenty of customers here for it
I would have thought that one of those old passenger liners would lend itself to hotel conversion better than a Carrier,
I would have thought that one of those old passenger liners would lend itself to hotel conversion better than a Carrier,
Don't drop the soap
Use an ex-naval ship as a prison? But imagine all of the sex on board. Showers and soap, big tough men. A naval ship's no place for that kind of carry on, even if it is de-commissioned.
Oh hang on, what am I saying ??
Oh hang on, what am I saying ??
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Sod it...
Buy the carrier, fill it full of crims/whingers - bring back the jets and sink the wallowing gray hulk.....just off a beach that the maoris "own" (unless of course they want to share the bad times?? or maybe just profit from the good?)....... and then charge them for the clean up job.
fair is fair - own the land - pay the rent.
sue me!
blue wolf ------ love your insight into the k1w1 psyche. sadly the bucked tooth wicked witch of the west has the fickle populous fooled with fairy tails of the big bad 'right wing' wolf coming to steal their porridge/benefits.
Buy the carrier, fill it full of crims/whingers - bring back the jets and sink the wallowing gray hulk.....just off a beach that the maoris "own" (unless of course they want to share the bad times?? or maybe just profit from the good?)....... and then charge them for the clean up job.
fair is fair - own the land - pay the rent.
sue me!
blue wolf ------ love your insight into the k1w1 psyche. sadly the bucked tooth wicked witch of the west has the fickle populous fooled with fairy tails of the big bad 'right wing' wolf coming to steal their porridge/benefits.
