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jadrolinija 18th October 2024 11:14

AJet conditions
 
Hello everyone,

Can anyone provide information about AJet conditions (roster, salary, career progress) for pilots (captains specifically), if possible you can contact me in private or share information here, it is much appreciated!

Thank you best regards

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EUops 2nd December 2024 10:31

Has anyone attended the assessment in Istanbul? Any feedback would be highly appreciated.

BAe 146-100 2nd December 2024 14:32

Is it the full TK experience as they are owned by Tk, company medical etc

Giuff 3rd December 2024 09:35

They are sending invitations to rated A320 Captains, honestly the conditions look too good to be true in my opinion.

midnight cruiser 3rd December 2024 10:59

An agent speculatively sent me this one - supposedly €18809 OTE pm, but I'm guessing that refers to the 5 peak months, and not averaged over the year. Even if it were the year round average pay, it's not more than western locos. No mention of accommodation. Grim bases.

And I stop reading when any company refers to 23 on, 7 off as part time!!! (also eg Sun express) - they'd squeeze the same 100 hours into that 23 days, no doubt at all! 14/14 blocks minimum is expat part time, and even then, a full roster at decent airlines are not much more than 14 work days pm

Giuff 3rd December 2024 12:20


Originally Posted by midnight cruiser (Post 11779949)
An agent speculatively sent me this one - supposedly €18809 OTE pm, but I'm guessing that refers to the 5 peak months, and not averaged over the year. Even if it were the year round average pay, it's not more than western locos. No mention of accommodation. Grim bases.

And I stop reading when any company refers to 23 on, 7 off as part time!!! (also eg Sun express) - they'd squeeze the same 100 hours into that 23 days, no doubt at all! 14/14 blocks minimum is expat part time, and even then, a full roster at decent airlines are not much more than 14 work days pm


Exactly my thoughts.
Avoid.

DentBuckle 6th December 2024 03:09

Is there any of you guys that been called for an assesment?

Scot320 15th December 2024 07:40

I've been called for assessment yes but so far no insight into the selection process other than day 1 CRM and day 2 sim and technical interview. Any gen I'd be grateful for a pm.

Scot320 15th December 2024 10:46

I have an Istanbul assessment upcoming. I'd be grateful if anyone has any feedback/prep notes? Many thanks.

Whomever pm'd me thanks. I don't have access to messages until I've posted 3x. Hopefully done so now. Cheers.

Scot320 15th December 2024 17:31

I passed selection for Pegasus but they cut back on numbers. I'm wondering if similar. Pretty straight forward tech type interview with questions relating to emergency descent, windshear reported before departure, what would you do if you had a problem on pushback etc.

Only posting 3rd message here to reach the threshold required to read pm's. Sorry if a bit much guys.

DentBuckle 16th December 2024 06:03


Originally Posted by Scot320 (Post 11787201)
I've been called for assessment yes but so far no insight into the selection process other than day 1 CRM and day 2 sim and technical interview. Any gen I'd be grateful for a pm.

Good luck for the assesment. Still waiting for the call here. 737 fleet.

738Skyrider 30th December 2024 17:58

Hi guys,

anyone been called for the assessment and can provide details. Would really appreciate any info via pm for my upcoming assessment.

737skipper

DZ320 2nd January 2025 09:27

Hi everyone,
it seems that HR department they are not answering …
they stop communication since the 28 December ...
any idea ?
by the way I have read all comment posted above, it seems something is not matching the reality about hours performed and part time ...

de fumo in flammam 13th January 2025 10:20

What's the expat tax rate in Turkey these days? I think it used to be about 10%. I have seen net pay rates quoted (not necessarily at Ajet). Can an expat be resident in Turkey and still get expat tax?

DZ320 13th January 2025 11:12


Originally Posted by de fumo in flammam (Post 11806463)
What's the expat tax rate in Turkey these days? I think it used to be about 10%. I have seen net pay rates quoted (not necessarily at Ajet). Can an expat be resident in Turkey and still get expat tax?


no idea , since I didn’t get any feedback from them, tax are not priority until you will get the job,
this is my vision…

uberfly 13th January 2025 14:47

There is nothing called expat tax in Turkiye. Whatever offered by agency or company is a net amount after income tax and social security.

jadrolinija 13th January 2025 14:56

Any ideas how many pilots they are looking to hire this year? Are they taking pilots primarily from THY/SXS or direct entry expats?

Textonik 14th January 2025 09:29

Deduction from brut is around 15 percent to Net salary. Heard that Ajet have enough 737 pilots, now just looking for A320 people. Istanbul is much more expensive than it was before but still package is quite good.

solarisa 31st January 2025 08:20

Headquarter is SAW, that area is far away from city center, goood for rents though

Giuff 31st January 2025 11:10


Originally Posted by Textonik (Post 11807022)
Deduction from brut is around 15 percent to Net salary. Heard that Ajet have enough 737 pilots, now just looking for A320 people. Istanbul is much more expensive than it was before but still package is quite good.

Any idea of the net monthly average for an Airbus skipper?
Numbers from agencies are not clear to me.
Thanks

PapaEchoIndia 5th February 2025 07:47


Originally Posted by solarisa (Post 11818016)
Headquarter is SAW, that area is far away from city center, goood for rents though

Not anymore, the surrounding area has improved a lot in the years. Also Istanbul is a city where nearly each area has its own center.

EUops 5th February 2025 08:09


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11818153)
Any idea of the net monthly average for an Airbus skipper?
Numbers from agencies are not clear to me.
Thanks

It's hard to calculate exactly, but expect more than 20K euros.

Giuff 5th February 2025 18:26


Originally Posted by EUops (Post 11822010)
It's hard to calculate exactly, but expect more than 20K euros.

I assume its gross and peak season.
Thanks for the info.

Scot320 5th February 2025 19:03


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11822474)
I assume its gross and peak season.
Thanks for the info.

Negative the pattern is full x2

EUops 5th February 2025 20:38


Originally Posted by Giuff (Post 11822474)
I assume its gross and peak season.
Thanks for the info.

Negative, it's net and yearly average 😀

Giuff 6th February 2025 13:29

Hello again,

any info about the recruitment drive for DECs is really appreciated.

Thanks in advance to All.

Oblivion67 17th February 2025 07:47

UPDATE ON A JET
 
Hi Everyone,

Any updates on this from recent new joiners?

I received an email from a recruiter and am looking at it.

I am mostly interested in the roster, is it 6/3? Because I live 4 hours flight from Istanbul, so I'm wondering if I can commute. If there are standby tickets on Turkish as advertised? And if it's a 6/3, can you generally commute on day 6, if you get me? There are 3 flights a day to my home so I'm wondering. 23/7 Part-time my ass.

Thanks guys,
BD

PPRuNeUser556235 24th February 2025 17:59

AJet conditions
 
Good luck all!

Isao737 26th February 2025 06:15


Originally Posted by SmileFly (Post 11835067)
Hi,
I have passed full assessment. It was really nice experience.
Stages:
1) CRM
Group task and individual assessment with typical questions about stressful situation etc
2) SIM
Quite easy take-off and ILS Raw data without autopilot to IST. You are supposed to fly conventional departure based on 2 VORs. Then take-off engine out and ILS to IST with autopilot. Rejected takeoff. It was quite easy.
3) Technical assessment
HR questions and technical interview. Some memory items, more OPS questions, some procedure from FCOM like CWO or Intercepting GS from above etc.
4) Turkish DGAA Medical
Same like in Europe but better treatment. I was supposed to come with eating the breakfast. After blood tests they sent me to hospital restaurant to eat breakfast. During all tests I was with translator who took me to every doctor. It was very quick like 3 hours.

Conditions:A bonus equal to the basic flight salaries shall be given 3 times a year.
During the high season (June, July, August, September, October) sector pay shall be paid by increasing by 50%.
Of course food, transportation and private insurance included.

Net basic salary in Liras:
CPT PIC up to 1500 351079
1501-2500 389554
2501-3500 413600
3501-more 428028

Sector pay:
up to 00:59 3727
1-1:59 6012
2-2:59 7695
3 - above 8536
night 10220
I do not know what to think about lira stability. It looks like it is stable for some time to salary should be around 18k euro plus every 3 month double basic salary.

Think logically—if a captain on a wide-body aircraft in a flag carrier like THY earns $18K, how is it possible that a captain flying a narrow-body aircraft in its low-cost subsidiary earns the same or even more?

A significant portion of the information being shared is inaccurate and unrealistic.

As a foreign pilot, you will likely have a salary of around $13K. The scheduling department will assign you rosters with domestic flights and extensive duty hours, while long flights are reserved for local pilots. The $18K figure applies to instructors and assumes the maximum number of legally allowed monthly flight hours.

This $18K also includes one-third of a quarterly bonus equivalent to one base salary (not two), as well as a fuel allowance for commuting to the airport. The company covers taxes and health insurance but does not provide accommodation.

Regarding home visits and crew scheduling—rostering will make sure your last duty before going home is a late-night flight, and your first duty upon return is an early morning departure.

As for everything else-finding an apartment, registering a mobile number, or commuting to work—best of luck!


EUops 26th February 2025 07:30


Originally Posted by Isao737 (Post 11836152)
Think logically—if a captain on a wide-body aircraft in a flag carrier like THY earns $18K, how is it possible that a captain flying a narrow-body aircraft in its low-cost subsidiary earns the same or even more?

A significant portion of the information being shared is inaccurate and unrealistic.

As a foreign pilot, you will likely have a salary of around $13K. The scheduling department will assign you rosters with domestic flights and extensive duty hours, while long flights are reserved for local pilots. The $18K figure applies to instructors and assumes the maximum number of legally allowed monthly flight hours.

This $18K also includes one-third of a quarterly bonus equivalent to one base salary (not two), as well as a fuel allowance for commuting to the airport. The company covers taxes and health insurance but does not provide accommodation.

Regarding home visits and crew scheduling—rostering will make sure your last duty before going home is a late-night flight, and your first duty upon return is an early morning departure.

As for everything else-finding an apartment, registering a mobile number, or commuting to work—best of luck!

I suppose you work there already, so you know...

Isao737 26th February 2025 08:21

Turkey is a country that is difficult to understand. Its airlines, where foreigners most often encounter Turkish culture, serve as the best example of the misunderstanding between East and West (or the Balkans, if you prefer).

The recruitment process has slowed down since the end of last year, and the AJet recruitment team is currently in Indonesia searching for pilots for Airbus and Boeing aircraft.

uberfly 26th February 2025 16:04

Salaries posted few post ago is correct. It is true that in full time you can earn 16K as Captain and 10K as First Officer in Euros (with today FX rates). Salaries are paid in Turkish Lira so they are subject to FX rate fluctuations. All numbers after income tax and social security including sector fee and 3 times bonus and monthly I mentioned is average after dividing all payments to 12 months.. Turkish Airlines -Flag Carrier- pays one of the lowest salaries in the Country.

Unlike it has been share above, recruitment is ramped up and they are intensively looking for pilots. Expecting at least 20-25 aircraft to join this year to the fleet so plan is to reduce dependency to Turkish Airlines operated flights. Indonesia, right interesting choice, hard to understand why.

Finding apartment as foreigner is difficult but not impossible around 800 euro easily you can find modern furnished apartment in 15-20 minute commuting distance to the airport therefore you can simply avoid traffic. You have to buy new mobile phone in Turkey to be able to use your phone more than 90 days and it is not big hassle considering the money you would earn.

Free tickertin Ajet and discounted standby ticker in Turkish Airlines and partners including 1st degree family members.

Best package in close proximity, professional and good operations, new aircrafts. Of course has its difficulties to fly as an expat like in anywhere.

PPRuNeUser556235 11th March 2025 08:19

Pilots from Turkish Airlines apply to AJet. I met few of them and they said 737 in Turkish Airlines is really bad as they have 14-18 layover days in month. They said AJet pays much better money than Turkish Airlines. I would be thinking the same but I met few people there plus I have a friend who joined AJet and he showed me screens from his bank account with payments from AJet :) every 4 months you have in contract double basic salary so my friend got a little bit less than 30K :)
It is not a fake. They are expanding very quickly and flying a lot! They need pilots as Turkish Airlines and SmartLynx do ACMI for them. In December they told that 20 aircrafts are not flying due to lack of pilots.

PPRuNeUser556235 11th March 2025 08:23

Absolutely correct! I texted above all contract details so even if I do not fly I would be very happy for my basic salary only :) :)

Scot320 11th March 2025 12:21

Hi SmileFly,

Are you in training or online yet or have a start date if not already there?

738Skyrider 11th March 2025 13:28

Hi guys,

May I ask how long it took you between application and invitation to the assessment? I applied months ago but unfortunately haven't received an answer yet. Thanks in advance.






FlyingBok 17th March 2025 01:07

Thanks for the question 738Skyrider, I have the same question, so can anyone shed some light on how long between application and call for interview?

To SmileFly, can you confirm that average nett earnings for captains are in the +/-€18,000 p/m range?

Thanks guys, in advance, for your responses.

DentBuckle 17th March 2025 03:00

Hi guys, since Turkish is wrapping up their 2025 recruitment for the 737, i got transferred into Ajet and currently waiting for Simulator assesment and medical examination. Do you guys have any idea about the Sim? Or is it gonna be the same with Turkish sim assesment?

Giuff 17th March 2025 07:31


Originally Posted by FlyingBok (Post 11848835)
Thanks for the question 738Skyrider, I have the same question, so can anyone shed some light on how long between application and call for interview?

To SmileFly, can you confirm that average nett earnings for captains are in the +/-€18,000 p/m range?

Thanks guys, in advance, for your responses.

waiting news since almost a month now.
they are busy (looks like)

jadrolinija 22nd March 2025 21:28

Since TRY is going down again, any news if the offer will be updated and compensated for Lira loss or it is as before? Thanks!


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