100% agreed. Very sad to watch fabricated and scripted BS used as propaganda to suck more idiots in. These videos are pathetic.

yet 14 out of 18 guys failed the sim eval a month ago when my buddy, who also failed, was here to apply.

I think the ones that can fly don't like the rosters so don't apply.

I agree the ones who can fly are switched on enough to stay away from this establishment and see past these BS fake scripted ads.

I know many good guys who I directed to QR and told them stay away from EK and all have listened to me and not applied here.. I wouldn't be a good friend if I recommended this airline the way things are at the moment..

14 out 18 beats 0 for 16

Ps the sim eval has gotten much easier @ a year ago

The sim eval is now easier? Wasn't it just a circuit and an EFATO?

The EFATO is far too challenging to give new recruits these days.....

Apparently talking to a recruitment guy the other day, now if they fail the sim but pass everything else, we will take them.

Which is very unfair on those applying. To be given a job offer. Resign from a job, relocate the family, and then not be successful with the course is life changing.
Unfortunately it is happening more now than before.

Very sad the someone will do that crap and not tell it how it really is!

Agreed bloated...there are always the yays and nays, both have valid reasons for their positions...

I think the production quality of both adverts is appalling. The two guys involved are so blatantly reading straight from a script that it sounds false enough to think they've got a gun held against their heads as they read. Also, I'm no expert but I always thought kite surfing needed a spot of wind (as opposed to VRB/0) and I'm pretty sure surfing involves waves instead of mill pond conditions. If EK are going to try and give any credibility at all to the lies they're selling then they could at least get the very basics correct......and that starts with the believability of the lifestyle that's getting pedalled in these ads.

Totally agree. The production of these videos are poor. The pilots are talking via script, which is fine, but it doesn't sound genuine at all. It's as if they know they are talking crap (and we know they are).

I wonder if those two guys actually sell EK to their friends like they are trying to sell it to the public?? The 380 guy maybe as life is great there but the 777 guy???? How can you sell these 95-105 hr inhumane rosters through the night to all the !!!!e holes we fly to with only like 7-8 days off a month???

Spot on Don....excellent post

Which guy left already? PM if don't want to mention publicly. Although, they all have their names in the ads so not sure what the secret would be.

If it makes you guys feel any better, some of the spoof videos generated by his mates are absolutely priceless and had me snorting coffee all over my phone.
Have a look in the usual places and you'll find them.

How am spreading rumours??? I am going on what my friends there tell me who are there on the 777, 787, 350 and 320s. So the info im giving is not only on one type of fleet.. Their rosters are good and manage to commute home every month, guys on the 777/78 fly to nice destinations with not too many nasty turns as the 320 does those unlike us here doing everything on the 777 with only 7/8 days off a month... Granted Doha isnt the best place to live but generally the guys are happy there...

Sealer please feel free to share what you know about QR...

Sealear is right about one thing. This whole industry sucks.

The good old days are long gone. Treated worse than bus and train drivers now....

Partly because bus and train drivers are not willing to undercut their colleagues pay, and definitely don't pay their employers to work for them.

P2F and LCCs have killed this profession.

By the way, for any young gun hour builders or wide-body wannabes that tell me to leave and make way for them.... Thank you for proving my point.

I agree 100% the industry is terrible and if I had to go back and choose again I would do something else for sure.. As much love as I had for aviation when I was a kid its all gone !!!

+1

I can't understand why anyone would want to do this for a career these days.

Of course it could just be working in this part of the world. Sometimes I think about working in civilization again and somewhere deep, deep down I feel a glimmer...