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Mr Good Cat 21st October 2016 16:17

Is there any official reason given that the 'tried and tested' iPad is not being selected as the EFB of choice. All the other major airlines surely can't be wrong?

ExDubai 21st October 2016 16:33

The problem isn't the hardware.

Mr Good Cat 21st October 2016 16:39

I remember in the old days it was AS's personal hatred of mobile/tablet devices, but I guess that's not an issue anymore.

theidler 21st October 2016 16:47


Is there any official reason given that the 'tried and tested' iPad is not being selected as the EFB of choice. All the other major airlines surely can't be wrong?
My take was that it's a budget thing i.e. the cheapest available like everything else here.

But a casual comment to somebody in the know revealed that just like the CRS bidding system they wanted to fiddle with it and apparently iPad won't allow that. But Surface or whatever it is will.

Calmcavok 21st October 2016 17:09

If it's frozen, let it go...

Ba da boom.

BLOGGSON 21st October 2016 17:09

Yes. Apparently they wanted to fiddle with the security to make it a bespoke system but Apple told them to knob off as they aren't a big enough customer! I'm just happy if someone told them to knob off for whatever reason.

Divertnow 21st October 2016 20:23


Originally Posted by BLOGGSON (Post 9548497)
Yes. Apparently they wanted to fiddle with the security to make it a bespoke system but Apple told them to knob off as they aren't a big enough customer! I'm just happy if someone told them to knob off for whatever reason.

I had heard it's because we have some sort of exclusive agreement with Microsoft.

Wizofoz 22nd October 2016 02:31

I use a Surface as my personal laptop and it's really good-not quite iPad good, but fast and reliable.

Clearly the problem is what EK has done to it....

BobDole 22nd October 2016 05:46

Surface or Surface pro? All surfaces are not created equally....

Eau de Boeing 22nd October 2016 06:29

The problem is 2-fold, firstly by design in that we are using the Surface and not the Pro. This is a mobile phone processor and clearly not up to the job required.
Secondly is the VPN internet connection (at EK's insistence) that slows everything right down unless you are connected to a corporate network in which case it isn't then required.

The tablet tries to cycle, then because it's slow and the update doesn't work, crashes and can't be recovered.

Mr Good Cat 22nd October 2016 11:36


Originally Posted by BLOGGSON (Post 9548497)
Yes. Apparently they wanted to fiddle with the security to make it a bespoke system but Apple told them to knob off as they aren't a big enough customer! I'm just happy if someone told them to knob off for whatever reason.


Yes. Apparently they wanted to fiddle with the security to make it a bespoke system but Apple told them to knob off as they aren't a big enough customer! I'm just happy if someone told them to knob off for whatever reason.
You could just keep it simple and run LIDO's mPilot app on an iPad (robust and reliable), Boeing's iPad OPT for performance, Docunet for manuals, then add some simple apps for filing ASRs etc. Wouldn't cost much even if you had to pay an outsider to do the programming (no Apple guys in EGIT of course).

Can't see why security is an issue for charts and perf etc. So many other airlines getting by just fine on EFOS and equivalent systems.

Mr Good Cat 22nd October 2016 11:38


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 9548909)
I use a Surface as my personal laptop and it's really good-not quite iPad good, but fast and reliable.

Clearly the problem is what EK has done to it....

Or maybe EK just got a job load of Surface tablets from the same supplier of the chinese-made Wenger flight bags ;-)

Talparc 22nd October 2016 18:13

Guys, I store my tablet in the Microwave when at home, so big brother has a problem spying on me.

Wizofoz 22nd October 2016 21:10

Yeah- mines a surface pro- I think I see where the problem lies.....

fliion 26th October 2016 09:56

Interesting convo with a guy in the know who says if the Co IT desires, the EPT can now effectively be a camera & mic in the flight deck even if, wait for it, the power is off but battery life remains.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Strategic scotch tape now applied

😟

donpizmeov 26th October 2016 11:02

Apart from needing an Internet connection of some type to be remotely activated this is a good story.
It's just a tablet. Note as good as some, but better than nothing.

ruserious 26th October 2016 11:48

@fliion no scotch tape required if left in cupboard where it belongs

fliion 26th October 2016 11:56

Don - suspect you are correct re. it is what it is.

However wifi signal is all snooper software needs says he, which of course we have.

Ruserious: 👍🏻

nolimitholdem 27th October 2016 06:48

Oh come now. Surely there is no reason to spy on anyone in the Happiest City on Earth or whatever they're pushing it as?

United Arab Emirates' government likely behind latest hacking attempt

A bit darkly amusing that the attack is strongly thought to be designed by an Israeli firm. I guess you'll get into bed with anyone when you want something bad enough.

Technical analysis for those so inclined:

Zero-Days Exploit used against UAE Human Rights Defender

Nope, not conspiracy theorist stuff. Was considered serious enough for Apple to through everything they had at it to patch the hole ASAP.

Just this past August.

alwayzinit 27th October 2016 08:17

Naive probably, but how does it work that this "doorstop" is a required bit of kit as far as the company is concerned, yet we are responsible for it, even when there are no protective covers available to prevent every day wear and tear damage?
Also what is the deal should one NOT sign acceptance of said doorstop?:eek:


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