Some good points, but unfortunately with the last comment you have just come across as a tosser.

How sad that you feel the need to brag about it. Do you have the obligatory "penis extension" vehicle to go with that sad little ego too?

Before this degenerates, ask yourself this one question. If I did have 5 million dollars in the bank, do you really think i'd still be going to work at 3am numerous times a month. It was a joke!. :ugh:

This is Emirates we're talking about here, not some friggin investment bank.

Well, i've got over 20 million dollars in the bank and I still go to work at 3am. I have to.................they're 'Zim dollars'! :uhoh:

Harry

I heard a good one this morning at work :)

Watch this space in the coming couple of months, Emirates are in for a bit of a shock.

A large number of resignations are going to hit the fleet managers deck all at once!!!:ok:

If true, and I have no reason to believe other wise this will screw Emirates right up for a short time, they've had this one coming, hope it's true.

No more info, we'll just have to wait and see.

Maybe, Bin, because pprune ME is is a good place for people to unload their angst so they can then continue soldiering on more readily after "discovering" the latest good news from management? It's either that or complain to the union...

You come here knowing you'll find a rant or two, then go off at the writer when you do. What's with that???

A tosser? I love it!

I would fly at EK just to acquire a new inventory of derogatory insults. Mine are somewhat stale after years of use. "Knob" was another I picked up recently. It's been a good week.

So, about the interviews. Have they begun?

Mr. Ahole, most of the insults we experience are by way of "adjustments" to our Ts and Cs. That and the EK crew rest facilities.

Ahem. Pork?

I was genuine in my admiration of the OTHER posts and their creativity. I feel for the pilots at EK and hope conditions improve for them.

What are you doing to improve your lot? Whining on pprune?

And "Ahole"? You must have better than that.

Gents and ladies,
A question for you: do you think mass resignations or dissent will have any impact on organisations such as EK, EY, ETC?
No, there will always be someone to fill the space you leave. None of these organisations will fail...your departure(s) will mean nothing.

"Men do not fear justice, but they hate the lack of it", a quote by Aristotle, some years ago.

Rings true of the recent EK management style and the main reason, I suspect, of the supposed exodus to greener pastures.

This may be a naive question, but surely EK will eventually reach the point where it is more cost-effective to allow crews to be based in their home countries? With multiple daily flights to/from London, US points, Australia, etc from where many Emirates crews are expatriate Dubai residents, it surely would be efficient to operate those services using crews based at the other end of the route. The saving from not having to fund residential, education and transport costs would surely outweigh any inefficiency arising from having a number of smaller bases worldwide than one central base?

You could also build a marathon crew hotel at DXB to host crews whilst down-route there instead of paying a small fortune for overseas crew hotac.

I know of at least two pilots who have left EK in the last 12 months who told HR that they would be happy to stay if they could be given a roster that would allow them to get home for a week every month - something far short of basing. (I was one of them.:):):):):))

Answer? "We'll pass it on." Translation: Too hard-la.

Just as they did with the decision to accept female expat pilots, they'll do it eventually, but (as with the female pilots), only when they're dragged screaming into accepting it because they simply have to. But when it comes, it won't be to save money, for the cost savings argument doesn't hold water, as the vast majority of the costs of having crews based in DXB aren't really costs at all - they're really just money being passed from one pocket of someone's dish dash to another.

Well said...
One of the oldest airlines in the middle east (SaudiArabian) has had resignations enmass before, and it made...no difference, whatsoever.

Except...more overtime for those that remained.:}

Well said. Its a sad reality but true, mass resignations never hurt the employer only a blip on the radar especially with so many lining up to join.

Guys, wake up and smell the roses. No one is leaving in the numbers that have been claimed on this forum. I have seen numbers as high as 120 thrown around and all this was to take effect in December. There are only 5 resignation in December.

A lot of B S on this forum. That is fine as long as the moaners keep the bitching confined to this forum and not onto the flight deck.

Crewing: 60 pilots short December, no flex left.

1000 hrs rejected by GCAA, more pilots needed.

More aircraft coming, more pilots leaving... no BS, ask Korean.

SD: The proof will be parked around the airport very soon and they won't be statics for the air-show.

Likely about 60 pilots have departed this year, which is quite high considering the present climate of job availability. Regardless of the reasons why people are leaving, it would be foolish for EK not to address the issue, especially considering they budgeted for 20 pilot resignations this year.

I personally know a few more who are going to leave in the coming months and that trend will continue. If jobs open up around the world, then it is predictable that resignations will dramatically increase.

This is not good news for EK and it is not good for the remaining pilots at EK. Recruitment will be slow to react, we will be required to work even more (if that is possible) and thanks to the foolish management style of Emirates Airline, the remaining pilots will suffer the consequences.

Predictions for 2010?
-further alterations to the ever changing upgrade policy (negative for the vast majority of F/O's)
-more pleas from management to 'recommend' pilots for recruitment
-a change to 'hiring' requirements, such as total hours, type etc
-further rostering manipulations (this is a BIG ONE)
-a rapid increase in valid sickness rates and fatigue issues
-scraping the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to satisfy recruitment needs
-management pilots being required to actually fly pairings (bad news for those who have to sit next to them in the cockpit)
-more pathetic attempts from management to appear like they are concerned for our well-being (TCAS is already doing this occasionally during grd school sessions)
-less availability of contractual Leave allotment... already happening
-upgrades occuring 'out of seniority'... already happening
-the dreaded DEC policy put back into full force

I have a suspicion next year is going to get ugly at EK. Hope i'm wrong.

Enough guys are leaving during " the downturn" where there are relatively few jobs out there. Just wait for the market to swing. EK will learn the very definition of the word "atonement".

Won't chnange a thing, look at QR, it was struggling for pilots, but didn't change a thing in their way of treating its workforce... Why would EK do so ?