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BahrainLad 6th May 2004 10:29

Whilst the original poster has not expressed himself particlarly well, I am reminded of this line from Wall Street:

"Make the most of it while it lasts kid, because it never does."

and I think it's a good way of summing up the Gulf experience.

The lifestyles that attracted us here and that some of us continue to enjoy are inherently unsustainable......whether it's due to a growing local population, the fluctuating price of oil or good 'ol Islamic fundamentalism.

In the same way that the Gulf has got 'worse' since 1989, it'll get 'worse' in the next 15 years as well.

BAE146 6th May 2004 11:08

Hear, Hear Bahrain Lad . Nostradamus would be impressed by your vision and wise words.

ia1166 6th May 2004 22:05

15 years? a bit optimistic maybe. I'd give it 5 tops.

navmode 7th May 2004 07:46

grow up and get some hours
 
we all paid the price in one way and it took years of hard work to reach our postion,we have earned the right to complain.

Muttley Crew 7th May 2004 13:12


My parents don't make much... together they make about $80,000CDN. Theres taxes ontop.
I see... a strong blue-collar back-ground. Seen it before, "I came from a family that had to work hard and we never got $200K a year for sitting on our butts getting fat like white-collar pilots". But now you're gonna be a pilot and as others have already pointed out, you'll be howling a different tune in 15 years, without doubt.

Why do I know? Because I used to think just like you but there the similarity ends, you see...I was smart enough to keep my idiotic ideas to myself. (Unless I'd been drinking , of course.)

By the way, you should brush up on the grammar before SecurID notices you. He's a Professor, you know... ;)

AirNoServicesAustralia 7th May 2004 13:26

Not working for Emirates and not even a pilot, but just a humble ATC'er, but from what I have read and heard, the thing EK failed to understand when he said that the employees of Emirates should be proud to work for the 2nd ranked airline in the world, is that likewise Emirates management should be proud and grateful to the staff who have worked to get the airline to where it is today. Emirates Management might suck, but flying home to Oz as often as I do, I have to hand it to you guys, I am always impressed. Now how about some upgrades to us guys keeping you guys apart, you tight bastards!:E

wagtail23 8th May 2004 04:59

Upgrades......What Upgrades???
 
ANSA

We can't get upgrades ourselves so I hate to think what your chances would be.

And ATC (most of them anyway), get the thumbs up from me so don't go all humble on us.

TTFN

Wag

AirNoServicesAustralia 8th May 2004 07:16

Thanks Wag, I appreciate we've got stuff all chance of an upgrade. Would be nice to be able to have a look up the front sometime when I fly, but I understand post 9/11 thats a bit touchy. Not like the good old days.

Thanks for the thumbs up, we try and do our best. Next time you hear an Aussie voice on UAE Centre, say g'day and it might be me (then again half the centre is Aussie these days so might not be!). If you're on the recieving end of 40 degree vectors and vicious last minute speed control, and then get direct tracking and high speed a minute later, it's probably me ;) Anyway I guess it could be worse, we could be half Kiwi like Dubai APP :E

GO BRUMBIES!!!

prayboy 8th May 2004 07:43

Dear ANS Australia, first of all you are most welcome up front with me anytime, and it wont cost you a beer. But your support of the Brumbies is doomed. they were VERY lucky to escape tonite with the AWESOME chiefs, admit it . I only operate out of bangkok so I hope I can accomodate you at some stage, cheers PB......

AirNoServicesAustralia 8th May 2004 08:10

Thanks PB, if passing through I'll drop you a line, and I'll even buy you a beer (but it will be an Aussie beer!). I suppose you can say lucky, but then again the AWESOME chiefs need to learn how to kick straight when it counts :E At least for your sake the bonus point, seals a spot in the Semi's for the Chiefs so they can still hope to come Second.;)

lone Falcon 9th May 2004 17:52

Hello there All the Oldies and young ones,

I thought I might just share my views too, I have been flying regionals for the past 8 years, and most airplanes we fly are old turbo props, mind you we gat paid much better than most 737 drivers.

even then I quit the job to fly a big jet and guess what I got, right seat 737 after 4500hrs of command on turboprops, and pay went down to less than half of my earlier pay.

with these circumstances, I think I would share the same grief as my EK friends.

Mind you I am looking forward to joining the EK team one day, having the right qualification. but one cant work to make peanuts

LF


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