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Pif Paf 8th Jan 2023 11:54

Emirates rumour mill
 
So Brian SVP fly ops) is going?

any rumours on bonus?

any rumours of getting the rest of the pay back they took off us during Covid?

any other rumours?



McToryMug 8th Jan 2023 15:24


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11362131)
So Brian SVP fly ops) is going?

any rumours on bonus?

any rumours of getting the rest of the pay back they took off us during Covid?

any other rumours?

Brian throwing the towel in apparently.

Heard 5 weeks.

not going to get the pay back.






MissChief 9th Jan 2023 21:27

Cannot blame Brian. Many better opportunities back in Europe, without the stresses of living in Dubai.

Pif Paf 10th Jan 2023 05:25

Brian, no conscience, defended the indefensible, did what he was told without question, took the money, like most other SVPs he couldn’t care about anyone else but himself,.
I think easy jet pilots cheered when he left, the same will happen here!
The next SVP will be the same,they have to be to get the job.

other rumors?

High numbers of “millennial” cabin crew apparently leaving within first few months of joining when they realize it’s not as much fun as they thought plus they have to actually work! Some resigning on flights!

High resignation rate of trainers !

maybe Brian’s running away from the growing pot of poop,

My Rifle and I 10th Jan 2023 11:24

Heard 15 weeks

nimrodjoe 10th Jan 2023 16:47


Originally Posted by My Rifle and I (Post 11363338)
Heard 15 weeks

Pleased to see the back of another useless waste of space SVP- criminal.

Happy with any bonus, I’d assume 3 weeks.

PPRuNeUser0216 11th Jan 2023 07:30

It looks like 'enhanced contracts' are back to attract more experienced applicants. Meanwhile we are all left 5000AED+ down, better to resign and reapply. Another British 'yes man' to replace Brian no doubt

flyTheBigFatLady 11th Jan 2023 11:10


Originally Posted by Mike Koal (Post 11363924)
It looks like 'enhanced contracts' are back to attract more experienced applicants. Meanwhile we are all left 5000AED+ down, better to resign and reapply. Another British 'yes man' to replace Brian no doubt

still rejoining applicants get no info or get rejected

Ramboflyer 1 11th Jan 2023 11:33

Worldwide Basings will be the answer for an unlimited supply .

Pif Paf 15th Jan 2023 06:20

They’ll never do worldwide basings as there are things called “unions” which means Ek will have less control of those based away!

paying us back what at we are owed would help, a bonus ON TOP of that would help, anything else is not satisfactory.

As for enhanced contracts, it shows that Ek is struggling to find satisfactory applicants!

ACJDriver 16th Jan 2023 04:43


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11366559)
They’ll never do worldwide basings as there are things called “unions” which means Ek will have less control of those based away!

paying us back what at we are owed would help, a bonus ON TOP of that would help, anything else is not satisfactory.

As for enhanced contracts, it shows that Ek is struggling to find satisfactory applicants!

Not everywhere has unions and even in countries where they do, it is not at every airlines. Employment labor laws is more the issue I think.

flyTheBigFatLady 17th Jan 2023 06:44


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11366559)
They’ll never do worldwide basings as there are things called “unions” which means Ek will have less control of those based away!

paying us back what at we are owed would help, a bonus ON TOP of that would help, anything else is not satisfactory.

As for enhanced contracts, it shows that Ek is struggling to find satisfactory applicants!

looks like they don’t find enough replacements for those who let go- lol

Pif Paf 18th Jan 2023 05:31

Airbus has apparently offered EK the 350 earlier than expected, but flight oops now don’t have enough pilots to cover it, the 380 and 777 so they’re back pedaling rapidly.

Flight ops now have not enough pilots, not enough cabin crew, plus fleet worried as many senior guys would probably bid to go on 350; therefore reducing experience levels overall on 777 and 380 in LHS. Paired with lots of new pilots from the academy with nil experience means the insurers are not happy either, leading to insurance premiums going up , costing more which annoys the accountants and you know they run the airline!!!

flyTheBigFatLady 18th Jan 2023 06:11


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11368625)
Airbus has apparently offered EK the 350 earlier than expected, but flight oops now don’t have enough pilots to cover it, the 380 and 777 so they’re back pedaling rapidly.

Flight ops now have not enough pilots, not enough cabin crew, plus fleet worried as many senior guys would probably bid to go on 350; therefore reducing experience levels overall on 777 and 380 in LHS. Paired with lots of new pilots from the academy with nil experience means the insurers are not happy either, leading to insurance premiums going up , costing more which annoys the accountants and you know they run the airline!!!

it seems to be that it would had paid off to apologize to all those and having been sent into trouble, rather than keeping the „I cannot loose my face „ mentality up.
karma is bitch and it’s bitting EK finally.

how much is it worth to keep your face, and being unable to fulfill business demand, because of the Missmanagements done in EK, arrogance and personal greed for power.
i hope that EK managers are satisfied that former Employees are struggling to survive.

BigGeordie 18th Jan 2023 07:06

No problem, Brian gets the blame for the crewing fiasco and departs with a nice big golden goodbye. Face is saved. He is replaced with more of the same and the wheels on the bus go round and round (until they eventually come off).

flyTheBigFatLady 18th Jan 2023 11:28


Originally Posted by BigGeordie (Post 11368667)
No problem, Brian gets the blame for the crewing fiasco and departs with a nice big golden goodbye. Face is saved. He is replaced with more of the same and the wheels on the bus go round and round (until they eventually come off).

yeah if Brian is really leaving the successor will be an insider and I got a good guess which 3 three are in a close loop for that post. They are well known already for their empathy towards their pilots. They are liked by AAR because they never said no to him.

McToryMug 21st Jan 2023 05:07

Probably another Aussie moron will come and have a go at changing next to nothing! idiots!

Capn Rex Havoc 21st Jan 2023 15:27

When was there last an Aussie in senior management? They all seem to have been from Fibber Magee Land........


nimrodjoe 21st Jan 2023 18:37

Aussies are probably the only nationality I hate flying with

Capn Rex Havoc 21st Jan 2023 20:07

Sounds like another moan from from a whiney Pom.

McToryMug 22nd Jan 2023 03:50


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 11371058)
Sounds like another moan from from a whiney Pom.

Rather be a pom than a convict

Capn Rex Havoc 22nd Jan 2023 04:53


Originally Posted by McToryMug (Post 11371216)
Rather be a pom than a convict

lol the convicts were all Poms - hahahaha, you don’t even know your history.



Pif Paf 22nd Jan 2023 05:21

So to be factual POHMS or POME (google it) we’re sent to Australia. Therefore over time most Australian families, who have been in Australia some time, could be related to a POHM or POME.
I laugh when I hear “whining Pom” as most aussies have scant knowledge of the history and nowadays with all the whinging going in Australia, it’s easy to see these Aussies definitely have picked up the trait from their distant relatives!!!!

can we now get back to rumors as opposed to the usual slagging off!

Pif Paf 22nd Jan 2023 05:30

So the largest profit share I remember was 14 weeks back in 2010?We made more than the profit made back them in the first 6 months. So surely 14 weeks is a starting point,!!,
We’ve raked in the profits since then. so therefore it’s got to be way in excess of 14 weeks.

remembering they still need to repay me 2 months salary they took from me during covid! So therefore I’m needing minimum 14 + 8 = 22 !

I bet they’re working overtime to work out how they can justify giving us less, which I know they will!!!

radlettrejoin 22nd Jan 2023 08:18


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11371236)
I bet they’re working overtime to work out how they can justify giving us less, which I know they will!!!

Paying $3.1 billion back to Dubai should do it.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2021-06-15/



T54A 30th Jan 2023 21:50

When last did EK pilot get a salary adjustment? I'm not trying to start an anti-EK rant please. Just a simple question.

aussiefarmer 31st Jan 2023 04:02


Originally Posted by T54A (Post 11377057)
When last did EK pilot get a salary adjustment? I'm trying to start an anti-EK rant please. Just a simple question.

There was a 1% increase last year 🤯

PPRuNeUser0216 31st Jan 2023 04:30


Originally Posted by aussiefarmer (Post 11377177)
There was a 1% increase last year 🤯

1percent was a fair pay deal and very close to inflation. Pilots should count themselves lucky to have any increase last year !

Pif Paf 31st Jan 2023 05:41

Mike - could you label your post sarcastic 😀
Many of the potential joiners to EK have no idea what sarcasm is, possibly because they don’t understand it!
I’m sure many will already be saying that inflation in Dubai is soooo low and pay is keeping up with inflation therefore EK is an even better option NOT!

T54A 31st Jan 2023 07:19


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11377201)
Mike - could you label your post sarcastic 😀
Many of the potential joiners to EK have no idea what sarcasm is, possibly because they don’t understand it!
I’m sure many will already be saying that inflation in Dubai is soooo low and pay is keeping up with inflation therefore EK is an even better option NOT!

Yip are all stupid. We don’t have a clue. We haven’t flown for other international carriers. We haven't lost our jobs due to Covid. We don’t have families to feed and educate. We aren’t asking questions, so we can make informed decisions. Oh yes, and we ALL have passports that let us work anywhere in the world we want.

Thank god for your sage wisdom.

Pif Paf 22nd Feb 2023 14:10

So being rather cynical it looks like EK is splashing it’s money around everywhere (interior upgrades, ICE upgrades, new training colleg) in a bid to lower the profits this year so they don’t repay us the money we’re owed plus give us a well deserved bonus,

How they break the law by not repaying salary owed to staff and totally disregard the subject is staggering- plus even more amazing people try to join knowing this is going on!

flyTheBigFatLady 22nd Feb 2023 17:12


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11389817)
So being rather cynical it looks like EK is splashing it’s money around everywhere (interior upgrades, ICE upgrades, new training colleg) in a bid to lower the profits this year so they don’t repay us the money we’re owed plus give us a well deserved bonus,

How they break the law by not repaying salary owed to staff and totally disregard the subject is staggering- plus even more amazing people try to join knowing this is going on!

typical EK, isn’t it?
with record profit year just before bonus announcement STC announced to purchase of 240 RR engines for the whale
this behavior is not exactly new, but marks a new low as people have given a lot in the past 3 years and again the acknowledgement is even worse than before.
but don’t worry the managers will get their share of the well handled Covid crises.
not to say that Dubai is again making a fortune over the gas price.

and a law is just as good as you Someone to execute it, where in case of EK not even a lawyer would touch EK because of the obvious reason.

Wasn’t their recently a pilot being removed from roaster because he wrote about job security. I think that’s says it all

Pif Paf 22nd Feb 2023 18:48

Yes, I think a Swedish FO - came too close to the truth in a social media post, removed from roster within minutes.
These are the things the “newbies” and guys queuing chose not to take note of until it’s too late!

VC10L1011 22nd Feb 2023 21:09

I got tired of not being repaid my 6 months pay.. I resigned…life is now 100% better!

Stop complaining and moaning about stuff that you know won’t change!


k.swiss 22nd Feb 2023 22:00


Originally Posted by VC10L1011 (Post 11390039)
I got tired of not being repaid my 6 months pay.. I resigned…life is now 100% better!

Stop complaining and moaning about stuff that you know won’t change!

OK easier said than done, where did you go?

For those of us with no where to go what would you advise?

Kennytheking 23rd Feb 2023 03:48


Originally Posted by Pif Paf (Post 11389964)
Yes, I think a Swedish FO - came too close to the truth in a social media post, removed from roster within minutes.
These are the things the “newbies” and guys queuing chose not to take note of until it’s too late!

That is not what happened but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story.

flyTheBigFatLady 23rd Feb 2023 05:11


Originally Posted by Kennytheking (Post 11390158)
That is not what happened but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story.

i was asking what’s the story behind the rumor ?

Kennytheking 23rd Feb 2023 05:27

I don't have all the facts but I also saw the screenshots of his roster + social media post. Closer examination revealed the social media post was made a couple of weeks after his removal from roster. I have no idea why he was let go and wouldn't want to dig into his personal affairs but suffice to say the truth was somewhat different to what was implied with the screenshots that were doing the rounds.

flyTheBigFatLady 23rd Feb 2023 14:22


Originally Posted by Kennytheking (Post 11390191)
I don't have all the facts but I also saw the screenshots of his roster + social media post. Closer examination revealed the social media post was made a couple of weeks after his removal from roster. I have no idea why he was let go and wouldn't want to dig into his personal affairs but suffice to say the truth was somewhat different to what was implied with the screenshots that were doing the rounds.

So seems the post was a reaction to what happend to him.

nimrodjoe 24th Feb 2023 01:37


Originally Posted by Kennytheking (Post 11390191)
I don't have all the facts but I also saw the screenshots of his roster + social media post. Closer examination revealed the social media post was made a couple of weeks after his removal from roster. I have no idea why he was let go and wouldn't want to dig into his personal affairs but suffice to say the truth was somewhat different to what was implied with the screenshots that were doing the rounds.

how do you know what actually happened then you absolute moron ? Keep your nose out of things that don’t concern you dumb dumb - idiots like you that made emirates a miserable place to be !


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