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cruisepower 14th Mar 2024 10:42


Originally Posted by NocturnalNavigat0r (Post 11615123)
Hey cruisepower,

I have some questions:
  1. Can those who have never completed ATPL theory enroll in Fujairah Aviation Academy/ Alpha Aviation for the full course and exam?
  2. If a person holds two licenses (FAA CPL Multi engine and DGCA CPL Single engine) but has only completed DGCA ATPL theory, are they eligible to take the 14 GCAA ATPL exam?

Thanks.

As ive said befoee If you hold a CPL or frozen ATPL regardless of your current license except GCAA then you need to do the 14 exams.

If you hold a full ATPL then it's 2 exams.

To answer your question you can enroll in these flight school for the exams but it will be meaninless if you dont have a job offer or a sponsor. And to answer your next question see what I wrote first doesn't matter if you have 2 or 5 licenses you still need to do the 14 exams with GCAA if you get a job through this program

zxsoarer 14th Mar 2024 12:01


Originally Posted by NocturnalNavigat0r (Post 11615554)
I understand now after getting type rating and if offered the job, then you can take the GCAA ATPL exams.

It's been a while since I last took my ATPL theory exams, do you know if the academies provide study materials before the GCAA ATPL theory exams?

Thanks.

Don't know about study materials, but a subscription with ATPLQ should be enough to pass the exams.

Fly highhigh 22nd Mar 2024 11:53


Originally Posted by cruisepower (Post 11614979)
Lots of people have this misunderstanding, First of all you cannot convert your FAA to GCAA license without a job offer or a sponsor unless you are a UAE citizen. There is no way around it. period.

In this program you will do the 737 rating based on yours FAA license that is when you complete your 737 rating it will be entered into your FAA license and it has nothing to do with the GCAA. Once you are offered the job with flydubai they will ask you to complete the 14 GCAA exam if you are CPL or 2 exams if you are a ATPL holder. Some are saying even before the rating they ask this but I can't confirm since I went with a full ATPL.

If they saying you need the ATP CTP theory then you need it. EASA guys will already have the 14 exams same goes with other country license, you need the theory exam as it's a requirement.

Hello Cruise power!

I have a question.

You mentioned that the rating process involves adding a 737 rating to one's own license.

I'm curious about how this is possible, since normally the aviation authority of the country where the license was issued doesn't come to conduct the assessment.


My country needs rating check with our CAA checker and did written exam.

So, this case CAE can handle it? We will soon depart to dubai for the test and they said we're qualified.

I'm little worried about it. If it can't attach our foreign liecense(Not GCAA)....

Then CAE get permission from CAA or get checker from our country?

Thank you. And sorry for bothering you...

cruisepower 23rd Mar 2024 15:39


Originally Posted by Fly highhigh (Post 11621372)
Hello Cruise power!

I have a question.

You mentioned that the rating process involves adding a 737 rating to one's own license.

I'm curious about how this is possible, since normally the aviation authority of the country where the license was issued doesn't come to conduct the assessment.


My country needs rating check with our CAA checker and did written exam.

So, this case CAE can handle it? We will soon depart to dubai for the test and they said we're qualified.

I'm little worried about it. If it can't attach our foreign liecense(Not GCAA)....

Then CAE get permission from CAA or get checker from our country?

Thank you. And sorry for bothering you...

That you need to check with your CAA. CAE has got inhouse FAA EASA, and GCAA examiners so it's not an issue for people who have these licenses.

You need to check with your CAA if the dubai CAE ce ter falls under their approved sim center. some countries will accept the type rating if an organization is EASA or FAA compliant. CaE being one of the biggest in the world they will usually tick all the boxes but again like I said it's best you check with your country license authority or your CAA.

Fly highhigh 23rd Mar 2024 15:54


Originally Posted by cruisepower (Post 11622201)
That you need to check with your CAA. CAE has got inhouse FAA EASA, and GCAA examiners so it's not an issue for people who have these licenses.

You need to check with your CAA if the dubai CAE ce ter falls under their approved sim center. some countries will accept the type rating if an organization is EASA or FAA compliant. CaE being one of the biggest in the world they will usually tick all the boxes but again like I said it's best you check with your country license authority or your CAA.

Thank you for your assistance!!

Me and my friend soon go to the dubai for type rating selection test.

Because CAE told us to come for the test, we thought they would accept our aviation authority's endorsement to add the type rating to our license, but I was a bit concerned.

If our foreign pilot license doesn't get the 737 rating, does that mean we can't join flydubai?

According to our country's aviation regulations, to undergo a check abroad, one must pass the rating written exam domestically, and our aviation authority's examiner must conduct the final check. This is somewhat concerning.

However, since we also have a CAE center in our country, I'll need to find out if they support this process.

Well..since we are from a country under ICAO but not FAA or EASA, the situation is even more complicated.

I wonder if CAE considered these aspects when they invited us; it's really giving me a headache.

I would like to ask CAE, but the people we've been in contact with are from the accounting team, so it seems we might not get accurate information until we actually go there for the test.

There don't seem to be many options.

Your sharing of good information has been very helpful, thank you so much.

cruisepower 24th Mar 2024 15:11


Originally Posted by Fly highhigh (Post 11622211)
Thank you for your assistance!!

Me and my friend soon go to the dubai for type rating selection test.

Because CAE told us to come for the test, we thought they would accept our aviation authority's endorsement to add the type rating to our license, but I was a bit concerned.

If our foreign pilot license doesn't get the 737 rating, does that mean we can't join flydubai?

According to our country's aviation regulations, to undergo a check abroad, one must pass the rating written exam domestically, and our aviation authority's examiner must conduct the final check. This is somewhat concerning.

However, since we also have a CAE center in our country, I'll need to find out if they support this process.

Well..since we are from a country under ICAO but not FAA or EASA, the situation is even more complicated.

I wonder if CAE considered these aspects when they invited us; it's really giving me a headache.

I would like to ask CAE, but the people we've been in contact with are from the accounting team, so it seems we might not get accurate information until we actually go there for the test.

There don't seem to be many options.

Your sharing of good information has been very helpful, thank you so much.

Hi yes be very sure before you invest huge money into this. I highly recommend you getting as much as details from CAE and your CAA as well. Good luck.

skysinan 29th Mar 2024 00:42

Hi, Fly high! It's curious to hear from you. What happened to the situation? I'm expecting a reply because I'm also undergoing training with CAA, so it's a similar concern for me. Please help

Fly highhigh 30th Mar 2024 14:36


Originally Posted by skysinan (Post 11625524)
Hi, Fly high! It's curious to hear from you. What happened to the situation? I'm expecting a reply because I'm also undergoing training with CAA, so it's a similar concern for me. Please help

Well. In my country CAA said they must check the Final chekride by their checker + written test.

So, we will talk to CAE how they deal with the problems..when we do the test..

But we hope they have the way...

Now... I didn't have answer...

Where is your country? other than FAA EASA.. Almost same problem

Khaledswilam 31st Mar 2024 13:58

Hi guys, anyone from South Africa went thro this program?

flyer_a1 11th Apr 2024 01:08

Does anyone know if they are currently accepting people into this program? As it doesn’t seem they are at the moment from what I saw.

AK7 23rd Apr 2024 13:31

Any idea how long does T3 Academy takes to reply the application for this programme?

mdaraf 23rd Apr 2024 15:22


Originally Posted by cruisepower (Post 11622630)
Hi yes be very sure before you invest huge money into this. I highly recommend you getting as much as details from CAE and your CAA as well. Good luck.

hey I would appreciate if you could help me with my questions
i have faa single engine cpl and I understand I need to do the 14atpl subjects. but , could you please tell me how can I get my mcc and can I still apply for the program without having mcc

Fly highhigh 24th Apr 2024 12:26


Originally Posted by mdaraf (Post 11641407)
hey I would appreciate if you could help me with my questions
i have faa single engine cpl and I understand I need to do the 14atpl subjects. but , could you please tell me how can I get my mcc and can I still apply for the program without having mcc

You can not apply without MCC.

And FAA single CPL... You need at least FAA ATP-CTP.. (737 is not single engine..)

AK7 27th Apr 2024 09:39

What if we don't have MCC?

zxsoarer 27th Apr 2024 13:52


Originally Posted by AK7 (Post 11644050)
What if we don't have MCC?

It is a requirement anywhere, not just for this program. You cannot apply for your first multi-pilot airplane type rating without the completion of the MCC course.

cruisepower 27th Apr 2024 16:20


Originally Posted by AK7 (Post 11644050)
What if we don't have MCC?

You can't join, its a hard requirement.

ALI23march 30th May 2024 08:03

Does fly dubai pay for license conversion?
 
Does fly dubai pay for license conversion and at what stage license conversion take ?


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