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fatbus 3rd May 2020 16:01

There may be no recovery! Saudia is not any different than most global carriers. Grim outlook for years to come . It's a harsh reality check . Standby for more contact / expat airlines to chop their pilots numbers indefinitely.

kpd 5th May 2020 10:46

the guardian reports not just airlines could be affected=

Saudi Arabia has given private businesses a green light to cut salaries by 40% and terminate employment contracts, citing economic hardships caused by the pandemic.

The measures, which take effect immediately, allow for employees to be laid off after six months of reduced salaries – the effect of which is set to slash household incomes.

Lucifer786 5th May 2020 13:28

WHICH is EXACTLY what SAUDIA intended when they “offered” this No Pay Leave for 6 months to all its pilots.
Because now the ‘Termination without cause’ clause kicks in and interestingly the notice period for that clause is ZERO days notice and / or salary in lieu i.e Zero Days salary !! 🤬

finestkind 6th May 2020 08:14

I see from the majority of post things have not changed that much with the mental attitude and level of maturity of the locals. For those of you that have children, you know what it is like trying to reason with a five year old. For those that don't have children here is your first hand experience of how a five year old responds to reason.

finestkind 9th May 2020 23:49

Locals and AA Qirad. Perhaps you should look at why the remuneration is so good.

Python27 10th May 2020 13:28


Originally Posted by LOCALS (Post 10778068)
it’s okay no hard feelings :) , I wish you all the best in your home country , where ever you are from :) .. with us we always can replace one person I’m sure 😘

Couldn't be more local...

fatbus 11th May 2020 02:36

Just remember, most locals ars stuck in there countries. We expats can leave when the bucket is full.

finestkind 11th May 2020 23:32

LOCALS. Thankyou. I dare say that one person you can easily replace will be with another xpat.

finestkind 12th May 2020 01:56

LOCALS. A couple of points. It's not the salary that is being criticized it is the possible reduction or other issue that will bring into question on whether Saudair is a worthwhile employer. Secondly if you believe that you can attract professionals at the highest level without paying them accordingly, for not only the work they do but the conditions they live under, or renege on the contract I think you will find that pool of talent unavailable.

fatbus 12th May 2020 02:54

It's safe to say those that hale from the ME truely believe the world revolves around them . For decades they have needed expertise from the western world , emiratization is a prime example of a failure. LOCALS believe what you want and continue to ignore the facts , it makes no difference to me or any other ME expat . Two bucket mate!


ps : not replaced yet ! Wonder why ? Lol

palegreendot 12th May 2020 09:36

Lucifer786

It is hard to describe that place more correctly. History has seen a LOT of lessons for such cultures, but old books are not for progressive arabian muslims.

FlyingCroc 12th May 2020 20:44

Good so far you were lucky just pushing buttons flying from A to B.

finestkind 12th May 2020 22:18

LOCALS if it was just a matter of pushing buttons to get from A to B then there would be no accidents.

finestkind 12th May 2020 22:20

palegreendot. There is a saying "my father rode a camel, I drive a car, my son will ride a camel" The expectations is that the wheel will turn. There is no humility when you believe in your own righteousness no matter what occurs.

fatbus 12th May 2020 23:09

Locals, no maid , no nanny just topping up the money bucket !

Romasik 13th May 2020 09:22

Having read some thoughts here I started doubting that civilization implied culture ...

Mike_Alpha99 15th May 2020 08:39

First of all it's heart me so bad to hear about what happened to Saudia expats, and i really want to ask the saudis to ( not meet abuse with abuse ). We have to understand as a human being
what all these people and their families have been through and what they are going through, as simple as it is it could be US instead of them !. personally i had the pleasure to fly and learn from them and it will be always. from them i have learned how to appreciate everything from them i have learned how to become a better pilot. my apologies and regret to everyone

fatbus 15th May 2020 16:02

Live and learn ( the hard way) if you work in the ME!

Jemmy Faisal 16th May 2020 02:32

Well , during the normal situation you have been working with no issues . This time most companies are facing issues because of COVID 19 , and they have to take an action toward this otherwise the company will face bankruptcy. I think you should be thankful that you have the options to take unpaid leave or get terminated. on the other hand , when it comes to professionals , Saudis have very well qualified people on different professions . Stop pretending that Saudi economy will run slower without expats .

Thanks

Turki Alsamer 16th May 2020 09:25

Hi
 
Firstly, we did not see a single Saudi working for the airlines of your country, secondly if it was as bad as you claim then why did not leave it to get another job, thirdly the Saudis worked to provide oil to the world through Aramco and for decades , Are you sure we could not run an airline !!


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