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BANANASBANANAS 22nd Aug 2018 16:50


Originally Posted by Jack D (Post 10230822)


Thats a “ local” bill ..or possibly one of the Russkie
party animals whose numbers seem to be in decline these days .. Tres Vulgare and fits the total lack of class

No argument there.

But, it is all part and parcel of life in Dubai - whether you partake in it or just observe it and that amount of disposable income in circulation is a major driver of inflation for all goods. Hence the £15+ for a beer at an average bar or £10 for 100g of coffee as mentioned in a previous post.

Joker11 22nd Aug 2018 19:08

I was in Germany recently and went grocery shopping there. For what I could buy there, it is nothing compared to Dubai. Go shopping for 5 to 10 items and you definitely need to fork out between 70 to 80 AED. Milk alone sets you back between 5 to 10 AED. Life here is expensive and I think most of us don't want to live like beggers. It is just not worth staying here as all money we make gets sucked out of your pocket before you had time to check you bank balance.

felixthecat 22nd Aug 2018 19:17


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 10230806)

EK rosters? Well I have heard both sides of the coin. A colleague went there 2 years ago and he says it’s ok, not easy but with a bit of personal management you can survive.

All your arguments are 'my friend this my friend that', where as you have many here who have been in the UAE a long time and are telling you straight from the horses mouth. The point is not to just survive, if you don't believe us then please feel free and apply, the more the merrier and the less hours the rest of us have to do.

mikeobflya 22nd Aug 2018 19:32

Does Emirates provide a public seniority list of pilots to its workforce? Can you as a pilot actually see how many pilots there are and where you stand on the seniority list?

Thanks.

Adam Barfy 22nd Aug 2018 20:50


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 10230970)
Well yes colleagues and friends. I know these people on a personal level it’s natural I would trust them more.
I have applied going through the process at the moment.

I’m afraid youre suffering from shiny jet syndrome. Come on over. Bring the family. We all know youre going to anyway, regardless of what we say.

EK is abit like a ladyboy. Attractive from afar, but those in the know keep telling you its a bloke.
Still, it looks........

But it is a bloke. And it’s not so much fun when you find out you married it for 5 years.

I’ll get me coat.

Beedo 23rd Aug 2018 00:52

Yes I think the resignation rate is a bit high for the last 6 months but recruiting rate also is acceptable, but the problem is the level of experience is going down as of the turbo prop guys joining right now, but i think its a good chance for thise guys to prove that they are good enough to be on the wide body seat.

I wish it gets better because it will help every one and will help the company , just need to be a bit positive and optimistic about it, the company had an awesome time before so its normal to have some difficulties between time and time as the hole industry around the world is running short of pilot.

Pilots in the company sharing there experiences and ideas to make work better but the problem no one would here or even give it a try. Thats true that we are very rare to fly less that 85 hours per month and mixing night and day and ULR and short TA’s. The only thing that i would really like to give the company a heads up is look up for your folks health.

Unfortubately now the company have stopped the live leave until further notice, and the 42 days leave is not granted too. I would still have the hope that till the end of this year it will get better and we will go back for the laxuries rosters of 60-70 hours flying

fatbus 23rd Aug 2018 01:21

Adam perfect analogy!

felixthecat 23rd Aug 2018 03:51


Originally Posted by mikeobflya (Post 10230946)
Does Emirates provide a public seniority list of pilots to its workforce? Can you as a pilot actually see how many pilots there are and where you stand on the seniority list?

Thanks.

Nope, that was removed years ago. The seniority list we see is 'adjusted' into a format that doesn't allow this and it is not possible to download and convert it.

uplock 23rd Aug 2018 05:46

If its online one way or another it can be copied
 
Felix very easy to download and convert
A link to get you going or just use print function in chrome print to pdf then copy into excel.
Takes seconds.
But then why bother seniority here is not even worth the paper its printed on.

SOPS 23rd Aug 2018 10:49

Does not matter what we say.. AH123 will never believe it. In about 2 years he might.. but not now ...

checkerboard6 23rd Aug 2018 16:28


Originally Posted by Joker11 (Post 10230935)
I was in Germany recently and went grocery shopping there. For what I could buy there, it is nothing compared to Dubai. Go shopping for 5 to 10 items and you definitely need to fork out between 70 to 80 AED. Milk alone sets you back between 5 to 10 AED. Life here is expensive and I think most of us don't want to live like beggers. It is just not worth staying here as all money we make gets sucked out of your pocket before you had time to check you bank balance.

Really? I don't know what you buying boet but life is expensive most decent places in the world these days. I do some shopping on trips and some here, purchase alot of locally grown produce is in the CO-OP these days and its not expensive.

Tommy Gavin 23rd Aug 2018 17:53

I have lived in the UAE for two years (not EK) but everything except the money and the winter weather is better EVERYWHERE in Europe (including even the UK😏).

The fact that you live in a free country where you have certain civil Rights is worth ten times more then a huge stack of dirhams and a fast left seat on a WB. DXB is nice on a layover or perhaps on a commuting contract but to live there fulltime when everyone in Europe is hiring is just plain stupid.

Joker11 24th Aug 2018 05:24


Originally Posted by checkerboard6 (Post 10231641)
Really? I don't know what you buying boet but life is expensive most decent places in the world these days. I do some shopping on trips and some here, purchase alot of locally grown produce is in the CO-OP these days and its not expensive.

CO-OP is good. Local veggies are both cheap and good. Spinneys has also a good option for cheap vegetables. But come on. Life ain't cheap here and it is slightly cheaper in other countries. Not in ZA as I suspect you are a Saffa by the term "Boet". See above comment. I think it sums it up nicely.

GoreTex 24th Aug 2018 06:42

EK resignations are up again, everybody else leaves but not the guys who post for 10+ years that they are leaving

SOPS 24th Aug 2018 08:29


Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 (Post 10232062)
Ok I try again.

Yorshire, SOPS, why don’t you leave?

For us we want away from Europe. If we stay it would have to be London. Middle East as my wife spent 10 years growing up there, she likes it and would go back, or Far East HK, Singapore.
Problems with HK, Singapore we don’t have friends there, UAE we have friends and family.
Thats why we want to live there, so I have to choose either EK or the blue one.

I did!!!! You must be really new here!!

Adam Barfy 24th Aug 2018 09:13


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10232104)
I did!!!! You must be really new here!!

No. He,s been posting on EK and other ME3 & Far East forums since he got his first job on turboprops at FlyBe 2 years ago.

Says it all if he's now accepted by EK recruitment. 2 years turboprop experience is all you need.

If he wants to live over here, that's a personal choice for him and his family, but I am extremely concerned about the lack of experience in new joiners at Emirates these days.

eternity 24th Aug 2018 11:41

AimingHigh123,

Although some of the guys in here have a tendancy to slightly over exaggerate, their comments are still very close to reality....about 95% accurate.

I'm not sure why you keep positing on here, defending your decision to come to EK. You have obviously made your mind up. You dont need to defend your decision to a bunch of strangers on this forum.

Good luck with your application and recruitment process.
But if we fly together sometime in the future, dont complain.....because you have now been given enough information about the realities here.

Eternity.

Craggenmore 24th Aug 2018 13:04


Originally Posted by Craggenmore (Post 10230702)
Last nightstop in LHR at the local Sainsbury the Nescafe Azera Americano Barista Style Instant Coffee Tin at 100g was £3.00

Today in Dubai at Park n Shop £9.50

Update...........Today in Spinneys this coffee was priced at £12.80

Joker11 25th Aug 2018 17:36

Every colleague I speak to at EK tells me the same thing and also often the reason why they can't leave. So yes what you read here is pretty accurate to real situation out there.

LHR Rain 25th Aug 2018 18:26


Originally Posted by Joker11 (Post 10233169)
Every colleague I speak to at EK tells me the same thing and also often the reason why they can't leave. So yes what you read here is pretty accurate to real situation out there.

No one is Stuck here! Pilots choose to stay here and put up with all that EK offers both good and very bad.
One might say I'm Stuck here but my kids are almost done with school and with greener pastures out there I will probably leave as I would have nearly 20 yrs.
It was good earlier on but `I don't think anyone can say EK is a good airline now, not in anyway. Combine with who we are hiring and our fatigue levels we are an accident just waiting to happen and I don't want any part of this airline.
£20,000 a month is not even worth it anymore.


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