One Drink Too Many
Arabian Business report of an off duty pilot threatening to blow up plane. How did this manage to stay quiet?
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/trav...emirates-plane |
How did it stay quiet? The clue is in the fact the alleged is a local. But hang on... they don’t drink alcohol... correct?.... |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10212338)
How did it stay quiet? The clue is in the fact the alleged is a local. But hang on... they don’t drink alcohol... correct?.... More likely that this particular hero doesn't have sufficient Wasta to be able to follow the age old tradition in the sandpit which is that IF you have enough clout, or friends in low places, then some things simply 'didn't happen'. I saw quite a lot of things out there that I was obviously mistaken about and didn't really see what I CS |
Emirati Pilot means someone with a pilots license....maybe not even employed as a professional pilot. Professional drone or ultra light pilot maybe..who knows.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10212338)
How did it stay quiet? The clue is in the fact the alleged is a local. But hang on... they don’t drink alcohol... correct?....
Originally Posted by cargosales
(Post 10212402)
No, no, no, Sir, you are mistaken, they would never drink alcohol, would they?
Just like Catholics all go to church every Sunday, do not eat meat on Friday, have sex only to procreate, etc. |
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10212338)
How did it stay quiet? The clue is in the fact the alleged is a local. But hang on... they don’t drink alcohol... correct?....
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10212338)
How did it stay quiet? The clue is in the fact the alleged is a local. But hang on... they don’t drink alcohol... correct?....
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Think I'd be a little more concerned with the drinking habits closer to home than someone who, in all probability, doesn't even work for EK.
Couple of our fellow colleagues have recently 'left the business' due to positive tests, so please be careful as it's zero tolerance. 12 hours may NOT be enough..... Harry |
Why risk everything for a drink 24 hours before any duty.
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in my opinion 8 Hrs from bottle to throttle is not enough ,i am not sure if EK apply the 12 Hrs rule , why risk every thing just for the sake of it!
drink on your days off only ! |
Zero tolerance, utter nonsense in regards to EK and the GCAA and peddling fear. There are prescribed limits which are 9 ug/100ml or 0.02 Blood Alcohol Content and no alcohol to be consumed within 12 hours of commencing a duty. Basically 25% of the allowed driving limit in most US states and the same limit prescribed by EASA. However it may be lower in some countries. Depending in your metabolism, general use of alcohol, body weight and amount consumed 12 hours may not be enough, for others eight may be enough. As professionals we should know our limits, many have gone and bought breathylisers, not because they are alcoholics, but because they are responsible professionals and that’s the only sure fire way to know your metabolism. if your over and flying an aircraft I have no issue with Medicals pulled. But alcoholism is a disease and should be treated like any other imho |
Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes
(Post 10213250)
Drink on your days off - days?? plural??
You mean every 2 weeks when I get 2 days off? |
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in my opinion 8 Hrs from bottle to throttle is not enough ,i am not sure if EK apply the 12 Hrs rule , why risk every thing just for the sake of it! drink on your days off only ! If you stick to lower volume alcoholic drinks you will never have a problem if you knock it off 12hrs before, unless of course you can consume faster than a professional darts player. |
There seems to be a general misunderstanding by some about BAC and alcohol metabolism rates.
It doesn't matter who you are (eg. short, tall, fat, skinny, bald, not bald, male, female, "transgender"), everyone metabolizes alcohol at the same rate of approximately 0.016 per hour (may vary between 0.015-0.020 depending on various individual characteristics). Some very simple math can then be applied to figure out how long it will take to bring your BAC to the acceptable level. If you are twice the legal drinking limit (eg. 0.08) when you stop consuming alcohol, it will take approximately 10 hours to get to zero. However, It is possible to never get to 0 as the body can naturally produce alcohol that will show up in the blood. That is why the UK limit is 0.02. The above mentioned variables do affect 3 things: 1. How quickly one's BAC increases 2. How much one's BAC increases from a given volume of alcohol 3.How one "feels" due to a given BAC However, once someone stops drinking, their body will reduce its' BAC at a constant rate of approx. 0.016 per hour. It should be mentioned that there is a variance to this figure but it applies only to heavy drinkers and individuals with specific physical conditions. The science behind this can be easily researched online. To be clear, a short while after you stop drinking, your body will achieve its peak BAC. The level varies according to gender, weight, and other factors, however, there is nothing you can do to "speed" up the reduction of this BAC. Therefore, the only reliable way to know when you will be "ok" for your next duty with respect to BAC is to breathalyze yourself approximately 30-60 minutes after you stop drinking and do the math. Err on the low metabolism rate if you want to be extra safe. |
Originally Posted by cheerios
(Post 10213315)
There seems to be a general misunderstanding by some about BAC and alcohol metabolism rates.
It doesn't matter who you are (eg. short, tall, fat, skinny, bald, not bald, male, female, "transgender"), everyone metabolizes alcohol at the same rate of approximately 0.016 per hour (may vary between 0.015-0.020 depending on various individual characteristics). Some very simple math can then be applied to figure out how long it will take to bring your BAC to the acceptable level. If you are twice the legal drinking limit (eg. 0.08) when you stop consuming alcohol, it will take approximately 10 hours to get to zero. However, It is possible to never get to 0 as the body can naturally produce alcohol that will show up in the blood. That is why the UK limit is 0.02. The above mentioned variables do affect 3 things: 1. How quickly one's BAC increases 2. How much one's BAC increases from a given volume of alcohol 3.How one "feels" due to a given BAC However, once someone stops drinking, their body will reduce its' BAC at a constant rate of approx. 0.016 per hour. It should be mentioned that there is a variance to this figure but it applies only to heavy drinkers and individuals with specific physical conditions. The science behind this can be easily researched online. To be clear, a short while after you stop drinking, your body will achieve its peak BAC. The level varies according to gender, weight, and other factors, however, there is nothing you can do to "speed" up the reduction of this BAC. Therefore, the only reliable way to know when you will be "ok" for your next duty with respect to BAC is to breathalyze yourself approximately 30-60 minutes after you stop drinking and do the math. Err on the low metabolism rate if you want to be extra safe. |
So what will happen to this gentleman?
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Originally Posted by Joker11
(Post 10217777)
So what will happen to this gentleman?
White G wagons, running over herders, at night, in desert with AK, on video - the precedent. Those here a awhile will remember. |
Giving up is hard to do, and the Internet never forgets. |
Originally Posted by fliion
(Post 10217847)
His lawyer will appeal, stating on meds, and he’ll walk. White G wagons, running over herders, at night, in desert with AK, on video - the precedent. Those here a awhile will remember. |
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