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gardenshed 5th Jun 2018 12:42

Is STC getting a little worried now ?
 
Is it just me or do we think that despite the bluster that STC is getting a little worried now that his train set would appear having issues.
Numerous excuses about the how and whys of aircraft being parked up and services being reduced etc, from we are expanding and cannot get enough pilots, but the ones we have aren't leaving , all the way to it is the quiet time of the year.
July & August are traditionally heavy times, will be interesting what quotes come from the Bouncy Castle then.

motley flight crue 5th Jun 2018 12:55

I think he’s nuts. He’s probably on the phone trying to call president Carter to complain about the treatment of EK in the USA

SOPS 5th Jun 2018 13:09

I thought there were 170 cadets on the way to save the day?

The Outlaw 5th Jun 2018 13:12


Originally Posted by gardenshed (Post 10165548)
Is it just me or do we think that despite the bluster that STC is getting a little worried now that his train set would appear having issues.
Numerous excuses about the how and whys of aircraft being parked up and services being reduced etc, from we are expanding and cannot get enough pilots, but the ones we have aren't leaving , all the way to it is the quiet time of the year.
July & August are traditionally heavy times, will be interesting what quotes come from the Bouncy Castle then.

STC sells the company...


donpizmeov 5th Jun 2018 13:13

9 million cadets SOPs. There is so much BS being spewn around at the moment, that I think they have forgotten what is real and what is not . Maybe the new dude in recruiting has a few hundred pilots hidden under his cap.

The Outlaw 5th Jun 2018 13:15


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10165562)
I thought there were 170 cadets on the way to save the day?

Great... 170 zero time, zero experience 22 year old pilots to act as second in command of a 500 million dollar aircraft with 600+ people on it.

Yep...Timmy, "we just do things better" you say?

givemewings 5th Jun 2018 14:11


170 zero time, zero experience 22 year old pilots to act as second in command of a 500 million dollar aircraft with 600+ people on it
He got rid of the FOs?? :E

But Outlaw, don't you know, safety comes before ALL else in this company! They said so every time some other thing happened that just wasn't at all their fault, so it must be true!! :yuk:

exekcabincrew 5th Jun 2018 22:34

I think STC has 0 reasons for concern. His bank account + golden parachute he probably has will ease any concerns about his future.

Fred Garvin M.P. 6th Jun 2018 08:32


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10165562)
I thought there were 170 cadets on the way to save the day?

Lol, 170 cadets??? There is a huge grand total of 8 that will come on line between now and March of 2019.

Monarch Man 6th Jun 2018 08:56

STC being economical with his version of the semi-truth? Who'd have thought it?

SOPS 6th Jun 2018 14:15


Originally Posted by Fred Garvin M.P. (Post 10166237)
Lol, 170 cadets??? There is a huge grand total of 8 that will come on line between now and March of 2019.

So we are about 162 short of cadets plus ( and from what I hear) about 500 line guys short. STC numbers dont seem to be adding up.

notapilot15 7th Jun 2018 00:25

He is not used to someone asking him tough questions. Remember those days when everyone at aviation summits and seminars clapped to his worthless ideas.

glofish 7th Jun 2018 06:02

He is not worried, despots rarely are. I am worried however.
He wants to bring back the boneyard by the end of the year and thinks his academy built in the sand will be the solution. I see my vacation days dwindle and 95h as a given for the foreseeable future and this i will not be able to take.
A leader with such poor math skills is like a doomsday verdict. The way out gets prepared.

donpizmeov 7th Jun 2018 08:52

It would seem that the grown ups (sic) believe they will get 200 pilots from SAA and another 100 to 150 from CX in short time. Sounds legit .Everything will be fine . Can't wait for TCTs wise words this afternoon.

AERO75 7th Jun 2018 16:08

STC is aware of the shortage at this moment. Seems the solution of this problem is on the way. Let's merge.;-)

allatp 7th Jun 2018 20:04


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10167101)
It would seem that the grown ups (sic) believe they will get 200 pilots from SAA and another 100 to 150 from CX in short time. Sounds legit .Everything will be fine . Can't wait for TCTs wise words this afternoon.

Who in his/her right mind would ever leave CX to go to EK? I wouldn’t!!!!

mmmbop 7th Jun 2018 21:17

CX to EK - out of the frying pan and into the fire.

CaptainProp 7th Jun 2018 21:42

Etirates airlines could be the solution perhaps? ;-)

CP

theaviator2005 7th Jun 2018 22:02

Myself and 100´s of other pilots tried for years to join EK, but having only flown business jets for 15 years where the aircraft weight was 270kg short of EK´s weight requirement (YUP 270kg) to be accepted for an interview, we were politely turned away. Even with a GCAA ATPL and 12 years of flying fast jets in the Middle East, the 270kg I was short when it came to the weight requirement, was a deal breaker :) but I truly hope that the large number of cadets joining soon will bring the experience we were lacking :)

fatbus 8th Jun 2018 00:02

The weight thing has been around for along time. 732 not excepted but 732 advanced was ! AAR all about him saving face

SOPS 8th Jun 2018 00:49

AAR and all his face saving, may just destroy the airline. It is way past time they showed AAR. the door and forgot about his face.

KippaLippa 8th Jun 2018 03:52

STC is definitely not getting worried
 
.....but we should. I am.
Why would he be?
Got the money, got the title, got the life (hopefully for him) he wanted. Got the chance to be the unpleasant person he is, and be complimented and admired for it.
One day he will go away, close the door and enjoy the rest of his life, or not, not our problem.
While we may soon find ourselves again looking for another stupid "takeoff, rotate, gear up, flaps up ......long hours....., flaps down, gear down, touchdown, hotel room" job around the world under some other tyrant, just because he is not the great manager he thinks he is.
I think this thread addresses the wrong person

Regards,

KL

The Outlaw 8th Jun 2018 04:13


Originally Posted by CaptainProp (Post 10167731)
Etirates airlines could be the solution perhaps? ;-)

CP


"ETIATES" sums it up better.

The Outlaw 8th Jun 2018 04:35


Originally Posted by Monarch Man (Post 10166252)
STC being economical with his version of the semi-truth? Who'd have thought it?

According to STC on the latest ICE interview, aircraft will fly faster, higher and without windows. Removing the windows will reduce the weight by half...his words. That left me wondering if he meant that they should remove the windows and fly around with holes where the Lexan used to be or just cover the holes with high speed tape (to be inspected at every station)? Another way to reduce weight is to remove seats, crew, water, food and other such "non essentials" which in turn will lead to a further reduction in weight as gains will be realized by a loss of passengers! and all the weight associated with same.

I was sort of expecting him to see the future in teleportation but di-lithium crystals and Scottish engineers are hard to come by.

Rated De 8th Jun 2018 07:43


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 10167894)
According to STC on the latest ICE interview, aircraft will fly faster, higher and without windows. Removing the windows will reduce the weight by half...his words. That left me wondering if he meant that they should remove the windows and fly around with holes where the Lexan used to be or just cover the holes with high speed tape (to be inspected at every station)? Another way to reduce weight is to remove seats, crew, water, food and other such "non essentials" which in turn will lead to a further reduction in weight as gains will be realized by a loss of passengers! and all the weight associated with same.

I was sort of expecting him to see the future in teleportation but di-lithium crystals and Scottish engineers are hard to come by.

Sort of like Elon and TSLA claiming we will be living on the moon in FY20, but still burning $300 million a quarter and having a myriad of quality control and production issues.

Maybe STC hopes no one notices all the aircraft on static display...

KippaLippa 8th Jun 2018 10:18


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 10167889)
"ETIATES" sums it up better.

Mine wins!

EtiHates!!

zk-dxb 8th Jun 2018 13:13

etiolates?

halas 8th Jun 2018 14:11

STC is quoted in 2005 that the A380 wonder bus will be operated like a coastal cutter. Crew will work 8 hours on and 8 hours off. This will negate the requirement of layover expenses associated wit the crew.

I **** you not. I guess he is half way there with three crew.

This evil genius gave us CRC in the rear of the hull, age 35/32 upgrade, no pay rise, no respect, no recognition, except to say that a hand full of cadets will save his arse with pilot numbers.

Head low.

halas

SOPS 8th Jun 2018 14:32

Halas..I have a copy of that article somewhere. I will try to find it.

givemewings 8th Jun 2018 16:41

Yes he did rehash the 'cruise ship' idea not so long ago in some other interview... I remember it being discussed on the bus.

8 on 8 off, lol and where does he think the 'off' crew will be? Certainly not in a CRC of any quality for 8hr 'off' and definitely not in F/J seats....

Out on the wing if he had his way I'm sure.... :}

Edit: found this article while looking for the cruise ship one...

1) A staff member admits to the weight management policy that other previously denied
2) Tim's comments towards the end
3) the comment about it not being about profit/making money... (insert eye roll here)
Is High Flying Emirates Running Out of Sky?

allatp 13th Jun 2018 04:28


in freedom 15th Jun 2018 15:14

Eid ends the Ramadan excuse. So what does the parking lot look like now?

EK7777 15th Jun 2018 18:54


Originally Posted by in freedom (Post 10173713)
Eid ends the Ramadan excuse. So what does the parking lot look like now?

2x A380 and 6x B777 at DWC as of 15th June.

The Outlaw 15th Jun 2018 21:11


Originally Posted by EK7777 (Post 10173830)
2x A380 and 6x B777 at DWC as of 15th June.

In addition to the aircraft already parked, or do you mean 8 aircraft in total parked?

Wizofoz 15th Jun 2018 23:01


Originally Posted by halas (Post 10168272)
STC is quoted in 2005 that the A380 wonder bus will be operated like a coastal cutter. Crew will work 8 hours on and 8 hours off. This will negate the requirement of layover expenses associated wit the crew.

I **** you not. I guess he is half way there with three crew.

This evil genius gave us CRC in the rear of the hull, age 35/32 upgrade, no pay rise, no respect, no recognition, except to say that a hand full of cadets will save his arse with pilot numbers.

Head low.

halas

Ya know, I remember that, and was one of the few who thought- bring it on!

If I could have departed on an aircraft, and arrived back four days later having racked up 60 hours, half of which I was asleep for, I would have thought it great- do that three times every two months and you are even being "productive" by EK definitions, while working 6 days a month!.

I'm dreaming, I know, but then so was STC.

EK7777 16th Jun 2018 03:46


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 10173906)
In addition to the aircraft already parked, or do you mean 8 aircraft in total parked?

Eight aircraft in total parked. The previous 11 or 12 aircraft returned to service in the last few weeks.

gardenshed 16th Jun 2018 08:55

Even so, thats still a lot of expensive metal work, parked out in the sunshine gathering dust.

BigGeordie 17th Jun 2018 07:07

captsf, you had a lucky escape. Be thankful.

in freedom 18th Jun 2018 10:31

So STC is pretty honest with his math. 8 parked aircraft with a crew factor of 7.5 (or 15 pilots per plane) equal a shortage of about 120 pilots. He wants to plug that hole with the SAA drivers. Of course he isn't interested in hiring hundreds of additional pilots just to make your life easier. He perceives the compliance of rosters with GCAA "rules" as sufficient. Time will tell.

allaru 18th Jun 2018 10:43

Of course he isn't interested in hiring hundreds of additional pilots just to make your life easier. He perceives the compliance of rosters with GCAA "rules" as sufficient.

And he would have done those calculations in his head then moved on to bigger and more important issues.


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