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jarops 18th May 2018 16:09

... "EK" pushing experience out...
 
.... did you saw this one coming? YES. This is the only way for EK to keep airplanes flying for week to week basis.... the outlook before was year to year, then month to month basis, and now...
The "pay review" and current 3 men crewing for ULRs are keeping the door open only one way...out!

Now, I have had enough..... If you have info for far east guys who already left us, please, pass me some contacts.... PM would be nice, I am trying to get hold on to our ex pilots in China etc.... I though I would last my 15 years.... just few to go, but too much is too much! Thanks

cerbus 18th May 2018 17:38

Okay one pilot has had enough. We still aren’t going to get to 200 pilot resignations.

pilotguy1222 18th May 2018 17:39

I wish I knew of some names to send you. I am sure someone will pop up in here that knows some personally.
Very recently chatted an EK CA in Seoul who was there for the interview.

The flood gates are starting to open and will be pouring all summer long.

BigGeordie 18th May 2018 17:55

Cereus, we are already 800 pilots short by my reckoning (I'm flying 100 hours a month and it should be 80, so about 20% too much. 20% of 4,000 pilots is 800). The loss of another 200 would sink the company in its present form. However, some will leave and the already slow recruitment will all but stop. Who would join with no pay rise for years, no duty free alcohol allowed and now 3 crew ULR- all in the last few weeks! It will be a long and interesting Summer.

pilotguy1222 18th May 2018 17:58


Originally Posted by cerbus (Post 10150576)
Okay one pilot has had enough. We still aren’t going to get to 200 pilot resignations.

Considering that they tried to "limit" resignation letters LAST YEAR to 10 per day, I would say it will happen, and much quicker than most think.

King on a Wing 19th May 2018 12:49

Whilst on the subject gents. A really quick question.
Say you fly 70 hours as skipper T7 what do you make. And then please tell me what you make flying 100 hours, as you do presently.
Include all allowances.
I may then be able to give you some great practical advice.
Hopefully…��

INNflight 19th May 2018 13:14


Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS (Post 10151325)
Assuming a 31 day month and productivity kicking in at 88 hours, the difference between 70 hours and 100 hours is AED9,817.50

but a couple of months of 100 hours (especially on 3 man ULR ops) and you will be in no fit state to fly at all.

I'd guess anyone would rather fly 70hrs and make 10k AED less than 100hrs, esp. factored.
I'm a happy camper with 75 block, non-factored. Lifestyle is king, gents. Hope you get yours back sometime!

King on a Wing 19th May 2018 14:25

Isn’t there any way you guys can control or limit your flying to 75-80 hours pm.
Sick reports, casual leave, emergency leave etc etc

SOPS 19th May 2018 14:44


Originally Posted by King on a Wing (Post 10151387)
Isn’t there any way you guys can control or limit your flying to 75-80 hours pm.
Sick reports, casual leave, emergency leave etc etc

Thats funny...you have never worked for EK....

LHR Rain 19th May 2018 21:10


Originally Posted by King on a Wing (Post 10151387)
Isn’t there any way you guys can control or limit your flying to 75-80 hours pm.
Sick reports, casual leave, emergency leave etc etc

You can not limit anything at Emirates but you can manage it to fly 75 hours a month. When you have 3 weeks leave in a month you will probably only fly 75 hours for that month. As SOPs says, yeah that’s funny.
Rumour has it we have not seen Harry offering his insight because even he is working on his applications. Time to get out and quick.


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