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maples 7th Feb 2018 11:31

solo landing
 
Any inside regarding BKK/SYD Cpt. being locked out and FO solo landed?

TooLow 7th Feb 2018 11:44

Just to throw out a few things I heard about this (remember it's a rumour forum)...

- Allegedly put on street clothes and left cockpit during flt
- Allegedly went on a rant through the cabin, verbally abusing ccrew
- FO locked him out, landed solo (allegedly)
- Since removed from Roster

Some interesting things to discuss, if true, for sure.

donpizmeov 7th Feb 2018 12:14

Almost all that information is incorrect. If you don't know what happened don't spread :mad: anonymously.

Wizofoz 7th Feb 2018 12:49

don,

Be reasonable! Clearly something happened, so you can't expect there to not be speculation!!

donpizmeov 7th Feb 2018 12:53

We don't like it when the muppets turn us, but it's OK to eat our own? The names of the guys can be easily found. Ring them and ask. Or is it more easily done anonymously?

TooLow 7th Feb 2018 12:56

Like I said, its a rumour forum. That's the stuff going around, like it or not.

donpizmeov 7th Feb 2018 13:01

Watsapp rumours, which have no source name, are a bit different to pprune rumours. I hope you are shown more respect if something was to happen to you.

LivingINtheDream 7th Feb 2018 14:12


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10044829)
Almost all that information is incorrect. If you don't know what happened don't spread ****e anonymously.

“Almost”?

Even if 1% of what’s been alleged is true there is a real cause for concern! Don’t you think?

BigGeordie 7th Feb 2018 14:28

Whatever happened, the other 4,000 pilots will somehow be made to suffer for it.

Jack330 7th Feb 2018 14:33

For sure it happened since they’re both removed from roster ��
WTF guys, the bottom of the barrel

You rock 7th Feb 2018 14:36

Dear Too LOW

I think its time you retracted what you said, I don't care if its true or untrue, but types like you are simply trying too defame people without foundation. Yes I have seen the WhatsApp photos going around and although its extremely disappointing your post is just down right dumb if it proven to be without conviction. I don't clearly condone what may have occurred but your dumb remarks about a rumor network are just that dumb

You do realize some people may take offense and call the police.

delete the post champion

SOPS 7th Feb 2018 15:39

So..either it did or did not happen.

If it did happen...we will soon have Harry on here telling us how the kind and caring company you work for, has given this poor individual 6 months off on full pay, and the CPB was very understanding....

Or the poor guy was sacked.....and nobody thought why the hell is this going on ....

Or it did not happen at all....

donpizmeov 7th Feb 2018 16:00

So asking that unproven accusations about someone be removed is hurting the anonymous accusers human rights and dignity bonway? Interesting planet you live on.

ironbutt57 7th Feb 2018 16:19


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10045064)
So asking that unproven accusations about someone be removed is hurting the anonymous accusers human rights and dignity bonway? Interesting planet you live on.

dont think anybody was necessarily "accused" of anything, normally an accusation is leveled at a specific person or organization, neither of which is named here...it is a rumor, and this is a rumor network...possibly an inaccurate rumor, but no need to bite anyone's head off over it, rumors are most often inaccurate..

You rock 7th Feb 2018 16:24


Originally Posted by ironbutt57 (Post 10045091)
dont think anybody was necessarily "accused" of anything, normally an accusation is leveled at a specific person or organization, neither of which is named here...it is a rumor, and this is a rumor network...possibly an inaccurate rumor, but no need to bite anyone's head off over it, rumors are most often inaccurate..

Ironbutt

Just too clarify. We all know whT may have been done or not done but it's way too low too post the magnitude of such an event if in fact it did happen on a forum especially as it's unproven and also has been used against people.

Yeah I hate what may have occurred but isn't this forum about other issues. Like pay rises or a ek rant but too rubbish a pilot member especially when it may or maybe not true is just downright silly

ironbutt57 7th Feb 2018 16:31


Originally Posted by You rock (Post 10045096)
Ironbutt

Just too clarify. We all know whT may have been done or not done but it's way too low too post the magnitude of such an event if in fact it did happen on a forum especially as it's unproven and also has been used against people.

Yeah I hate what may have occurred but isn't this forum about other issues. Like pay rises or a ek rant but too rubbish a pilot member especially when it may or maybe not true is just downright silly

some of you folks here are all to happy to rubbish pilot members of certain nationalities of which you hold in contempt, this must have been a member of one of then"good" nationalities...

Jack330 7th Feb 2018 16:32

you rock, who the **** do you think you are ? This is a rumor forum and everything can be posted and discussed! I understand that you’re ashamed like me to be working in a sinking airline like emirates but apparently this is the new reality.
This event, if true, is just the revisited version of the other one, I think entebbe, where a crewmember snapped and was restrained, not to mention the accident and numerous incidents that someone is desperately trying to hide UAE style.
Face the truth, emirates is becoming dangerous and ridiculous at the same time, your pathetic effort to hide things not only is useless but counterproductive... We need changes before the unthinkable will happen..

harry the cod 7th Feb 2018 16:34

Then how about we put the first rumour to bed. There were TWO pilots in the flight deck when that plane landed.

SOPS/Bonway

Considering you've both left this Company, you share an almost unhealthy obsession with your continuous little digs at those that remain. Sad that you and others still feel the need to post constant derogatory comments about your ex airline and ex colleagues. Trying too hard to justify the move perhaps? Time to move on gents and get on with your new life, especially you SOPS.

Haven't you got your big train set to play with and dogs to walk?

Harry

ironbutt57 7th Feb 2018 16:40

thanks Harry, thats all anybody needed to say rather than attacking the fellow that posted a rumor on a rumor network...I fail to see any intention to rubbish anybody..

You rock 7th Feb 2018 16:55

Jack
Everything is not open to discussion when it ain't the truth.

Jack330 7th Feb 2018 16:58

Do you even know the meaning of the word “rumor” ? Google it and rest assured that something happened for real, there’s nothing to laugh here, it’s a serious matter.

harry the cod 7th Feb 2018 17:15

Then if it's THAT serious, perhaps better posted on the dedicated Emirates Forum. Stating there was only one pilot on the flight deck on a public forum helps nobody....especially if it's based on some flimsy evidence.

The lack of maturity and awareness shown by so called professional pilots is staggering at times.

Harry

Jack D 7th Feb 2018 17:16

Something definitely happened, no doubt ! probably somewhere between truth & rumour .. embarrassing but not a total surprise
A sort of “ here we go again “ moment ; and yes this is a rumour site, and the virtue signallers should calm down .

sealear 7th Feb 2018 21:06

To be fair to too low.... He/she did put a disclaimer in the post and listed allegedly at least twice. Can't ask for much more than that around here.

maples 8th Feb 2018 00:08

Ok,I ‘llbrephrase it then.
Does anybody here know anything regarding the event that lead to a solitary landing recently?

Praise Jebus 8th Feb 2018 03:48

Short answer...no

A strange trait of pilots that I have observed over the years is that many tend to find no greater pleasure than witnessing the failure of their peers... Never quite understood that myself....

donpizmeov 8th Feb 2018 04:03

Ironbut going by their names, (I don't know them) they are not from any master race.

Jack 330 have a Google and find out what professional pilot means. Thats the bit just before the rumour you were confused with.

Praise Jebus 8th Feb 2018 08:55

Morally imperative....which particular moral could you possibly be referring to? I didn't comment on Jet Airways Bonny because I don't work for them. Importantly however is the difference between two people having an argument in flight and this issue which I have zero knowledge of btw. If, hypothetically a pilot in my company left the flight deck and behaved erratically to the point where his colleague locked him out I would be concerned for his mental health and wish them well. It's the moral associated with concern for my work colleagues and respect for their privacy. Guess you and I differ on that but I respect you have an opinion.

SOPS 8th Feb 2018 16:15


Originally Posted by harry the cod (Post 10045109)
Then how about we put the first rumour to bed. There were TWO pilots in the flight deck when that plane landed.

SOPS/Bonway

Considering you've both left this Company, you share an almost unhealthy obsession with your continuous little digs at those that remain. Sad that you and others still feel the need to post constant derogatory comments about your ex airline and ex colleagues. Trying too hard to justify the move perhaps? Time to move on gents and get on with your new life, especially you SOPS.

Haven't you got your big train set to play with and dogs to walk?

Harry

Harry, i have to say, i find your comments a bit harsh.. I went out today and "played with my big Train set' as you chose to call it...I then got home, after 6hour 30 shift including a 50 minute ' afternoon tea break' to yes..walk the dogs.

why do I remain interested on this forum? Because just because you leave EK, does not mean you leave your friends behind you. I am in constant contact at the moment with a friend about to upgrade...he is asking many questions....and im wondering if he is a bit too soon, too early...but we will see.

So Harry, please dont knock those of us who have chosen to leave but keep active on these forums..when we leave, we leave ( at least some of us) good friends behind and we remain concerned for their welfare....

RK Blue sky 9th Feb 2018 00:43

What’s a worse condition?
Someone who has left the company and has a look on pprune or a pilot still at EK telling himself and everyone else that Emirates is a great airline?
The autocratic style and work environment here does severe damage to ourselves and I think this is reflected in some posts defending the indefensible.

misd-agin 9th Feb 2018 01:54

Two pilot or three pilot crew?

givemewings 9th Feb 2018 09:33

I thought the 'individual in question' on this post was flight crew not CC? Or are you talking about the 'other' in flight incident with the purser/capt?

Regardless, EK being EK the full story will probably never come out and the Whatsapp brigade will distort it to be more entertaining/shocking

WakeTurb_69 9th Feb 2018 14:12

If the "news" on the CC facebook page is untrue then I feel deeply sorry for the individual. Such a vicious rumour (if untrue) will stick like mud and ruin the individuals career.

MacSheikh 10th Feb 2018 08:36

There's something missing here. It's called Professional Respect.
You could also add Integrity.
I only know the rumours I've heard and if true, this person probably needs medical assistance but as I'm a pilot, not a qualified practitioner, I'll hold my peace.

BigGeordie 10th Feb 2018 09:19

With 4,000 (overworked) pilots and 20,000 (equally overworked) cabin crew there are bound to be a number with mental health issues. If we had the kind of caring company culture where people weren't afraid to make such issues known the airline would be a better and safer place.

Emma Royds 10th Feb 2018 11:13

With regards to the other topic that has generated discussion concerning our colleague prior to him joining EK, can I suggest you carry out your own research and then you will be able to establish for yourself if these allegations have any truth to them, or not.

givemewings 10th Feb 2018 13:07

Well Airdancer, some people don't bail on supporting their friends just because they've moved away and/or left the company...

It's a good a reason as any and more productive than just being there for an A vs B argument as is so often the case :E

SOPS 10th Feb 2018 13:38

Sorry Airdancer...you have lost me there. Any conversations I have with friends in EK is done by phone or email..not on here...I fail to see your point.

Givemewings...check your PM

Craggenmore 10th Feb 2018 14:19


why do I remain interested on this forum? Because just because you leave EK, does not mean you leave your friends behind you. I am in constant contact at the moment with a friend about to upgrade...he is asking many questions....and im wondering if he is a bit too soon, too early...but we will see.

So Harry, please dont knock those of us who have chosen to leave but keep active on these forums..when we leave, we leave ( at least some of us) good friends behind and we remain concerned for their welfare....
SOPS, what Harry and Airdancer are trying to say is please keep on helping your friends in Private but please leave the Public PPruNe.

You are out to grass now.

SOPS 10th Feb 2018 14:23

Sorry Cragg..must have missed that rule on Pprune


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