Dubai Air Show
 

The muppet TC wants „ to go out with a splash“
Hahaha, yes that for sure will happen but not the way he thinks!

EK made a little money things are GREAT again :ugh:

Amid the Shakespearean corruption tales coming out of Airbus, and John Leahy finally retiring by Feb next year.

Reuters saying 36-38 A380’s possible order tomorrow.

https://www.reuters.com/article/emirates-airshow/airshow-emirates-may-order-36-38-airbus-a380-jets-source-idUSL8N1NH098

Most probably Sir TC accepted his bribe to save struggling airbus and he’s preparing his golden retirement... He’ll be watching ek struggling with a huge overcapacity with his pop corn..

Potential 787-10 order and A380 buy back as part of new 380 deal.....
 

Just confirmed at Dubai Airshow 40 787-10

Any Boeing news will be of zero surprise, but another 380 will be quite the opposite.

https://www.facebook.com/AIRLINESECR...28354137437594

Emirates have just announced an order for Boeing 40 787-9 aircraft at the Dubai Airshow. The 787-10 will enable Emirates to open up routes with smaller demands and give the airline much needed flexibility

The 787 deal, including airplanes and related equipment, is valued at $15.1 billion at current list prices. Emirates' orders today will be delivered from 2022,


Emirates is also rumoured to order 30-40 A380 but are nervous about the resale market. A possible order will be conditional upon Airbus buying back or finding new homes for some of the older A380s currently operated by Dubai’s Emirates.

As much as I doubt an A380 order, I am still curious what will come out of Airbus's workshop.

The 787 surprises me and it doesn't.

So why did he just order 787s then? Also, how is Airbus struggling (A380 sales aside)?

Nice change to order an airplane with which an airline can make money. Now to start counting backwards from 100 and we will be in business.

The level of hatred displayed by some against the A380 - and other AB products - is incredible.
For sure they come from countries (Ireland, NZ, Oz, NL, Belgium) with a fantastic aircraft industry ...
What could be the reason ? Too manies Hollywood movies since childhood ? Secretly dreaming of US citizenship by adoring American aircraft? Trying to figure they are airlines managers and economists, when they are just airline pilots without much knowledge of anything past an OM-A and a FCOM ? Dreaming to " fly the 787 " when it will be just another cockpit in which you rotate bugs and confirm FMC pages, without banking more than 30°, to sleep in front of motionless panels for hours over the Indian Ocean ?

I don't understand why would EK want to trade-in some old A380's for new ones, they are the same aircraft, and the old ones still have a few more years of life left.
And Kobus, I don't hate Airbus aircraft, I just don't like them as much as Boeing. But I always thought the A380 program was a big blunder by Airbus.

What do we all think of Jeremy Clarkson? Interesting choice...

"Interesting" indeed. He is a douche bag, and I know many who think the same. He also singlehandedly ruined a great TV show. Is he trying to bring ruin to an airline now?

Well, if they keep their business model, it makes certain sense. This because they need heavy metal and for the next 10-20 years, there are only the 380 and the 77X able to offer this capacity. So basically you have a choice of sticking to some dugongs, or to go entirely 77X, as a full 380 fleet would be a death sentence.
Changing some fuel guzzlers with newer models that guzzle slightly less, and having that sweetened by an almost suicidal offer from the manufacturer (thank you European taxpayer), would represent a keen move, at least for a mid-term fleet strategy. Macron's short visit must have helped, so let's wait for the last day of the (desp)air show for such an announcement.

The range. The new one are lighter an burn 1000kg per hour less than the original ones.

Ask the engineer what's the TBO on new RR....

The better fuel burn and lower weight has nothing to do with RR engs. The majority of the fleet is EA powered.

don, that's only 10,000 kgs. on a 10hr flight, ¿does that compensate enough the monthly payments on the new ones when the old ones are probably paid off?

Air Show entrance
 

Folks,
Since the thread was initially about the Air Show..
Does anyone know if there is a way of getting in without having to pay the normal entrance?
There were some mysterious ways on the previous shows, I’d rather spent those 75 bucks on Irish Village discussing Boeing vs Airbus over a few pints...

The range. A new one (well they have be around since EK started LAX on the 380) will carry an extra 22t of revenue to LAX than an older aeroplane due to an increase in MTOW and better fuel burn. So that and the saving in fuel cost would be the difference.

Also some EK pilots think they know more about the actual operating costs than the commercial division. I'm sure those same pilots are managing their millions very well!

You made me laugh with this.

A true aviator , you deserve all 5s in your next PPC for this.

I'm still waiting for the big iPad (EPT) order announcement.

Engines all have to be sorted at RR expense but should end up good then.......
If we're talking about TBO's we better not mention the worlds biggest engine on the twins............

Are you worried by your own portrait ?

Managing my millions thanks!
 

Might not care about operating cost Ek!, but managing my multi millions very well thanks! No fancy car in the car port or Jumeirah Jane in the house!

Here's more:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-a380-demands

Day 2 highlights
 

430 aircraft (A320 and A321) ordered today at Dubaï Air Show, in a single contract.

To be allocated to Frontier Airlines (US) JetSMART (Chile) Volaris (Mexico) and Wizz Air (Hungary)


http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press...ily-order.html

The end of first class on the EK 777 (and likely 787). New premium economy instead.
So the new first class will be a A380 product only.

You have my vote :D:}

flydubai went shopping again. 175+50 B737 MAX. Incl MAX -8, -9 and -10.

Boeing, flydubai Sign Historic Deal for 225 737 MAX Airplanes - Nov 15, 2017

Intention only for the moment. Nothing signed yet. The guy is 80 (!) , i guess before anything confirmed, he will have joined a lot of 380s on the boneyard ......:cool:

It looks like a propaganda lifeline for Airbus, to calm the shareholder for a while.

A "full ceiling height" suite on the 380 would engender more laughter than respect unless you are a Hobbit. It's already a low, under-ventilated hovel and moving the doors up would just amplify the effect.

Only 777LR which is 10 a/c , still a massive fleet of 3 class 300ER's so early days to read anything into this i think ?

And your own propaganda is pathetic

KD:

Well, the AB share went up 2.6% today, after it fell about that much 2 days ago .....
and when half of this intended order is signed up watertight, i will stop calling you a simpleton.