Still another day today...let's wait and see

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ing-a380-jumbo

Sheds some light on why there is no deal announced just yet.

The Air Show isn't over till the fat lady sings.

The lifespan is pretty poor! Btw, check out those first class seats! Now that’s game changing (but ours are still impressive)!

430 aircraft (A320 and A321) ordered today at Dubaï Air Show, in a single contract.

To be allocated to Frontier Airlines (US) JetSMART (Chile) Volaris (Mexico) and Wizz Air (Hungary)

Who cares about a little A380 order from a Gulf company ?


http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press...ily-order.html

777x's and 787s! Reminds me of the mixed fleet 340/330 days. Life on the Boeing is going to be Hellish!

Flydubai order for 225 737’s seems crazy.

Meanwhile, Boeing on Wednesday announced an order from Gulf airline flydubai for 225 medium-haul 737 MAX aircraft with a list price of $27bn, hailing it as the "largest-ever single-aisle jet order" from a Middle East carrier.

Copied from BBC news!

They couldn't say more, because the Indigo order for 430 Airbus (single-aisle, by the way) is hailed as the biggest order ever in the history of civil aviation.

Standing by for announcement that 777 captains going to the 78 will have to move to the RHS and there will be minimum age requirement of 40 to sit in either seat. Meanwhile they will also advertise for DEC 787

The thread was about EK and the A380. So lets leave the order of 320ies and the 77/78 MFF behind for a moment and read the AW&ST of today. The last sentence:

Dubai Airshow will be remembered as the week that precipitated a tough decision for the A380: A merciful death with considerable up-front losses or a lingering death with greater losses spaced out over a much longer period of time.

It's in the open what many have said for some time.
Now Timmy is playing hardball to shove all the damage down Airbus' throat, i guess.

What else could you have been expecting from AW&ST, a magazine which has always been heralding US industry and nothing else ?

Seems to me FZ will be taking over a lot if not most of EK short and mid haul with the 73-10MAX... fleet of 250 aircraft under code share.

777x to replace bulk of the 380 fleet in the distance future with no airbus order in sight for now.

I don’t see the current A380 operation route network changing too much in the next 2 decades with plenty more A380s to be delivered and 100 here already to be utilised.

J

Humble SLF here who like most people who are passengers actually really like your A380 - (in fact with you today pm ex Man) . I am lucky to fly upstairs and have to say that it is one of my favourite aeroplanes, and I like your Bar area as compared with other 380,s I have flown on with other carriers. The 777 like 787 is another ali tube same as 330 / 350 so not really that different. I will be sad when the 380 goes as it will mean the accountants have won another round in the race to the bottom.


Regards
Mr Mac

while none of us as crew are particularly fond of the bean counters, they do see the bottom line, and thats what keeps airplanes flying at the end of the day...as crew and pax we all like the biggest and best, but for the bean counters, biggest isnt always the best..

As reported in Flight International 19 September, Teal Group’s Richard Aboulafia had this to say about the A380:
..he described it as “born to die”.
The final delivery will take place by 2020 “with unpleasant losses all around”.
“Launched with a hideous mix of hubris, shoddy market analysis, nationalism and simple wishful thinking, the A380 was destined for a short, painful life”.
“This has been a learning experience, albeit one for people who should have known better from the start. When launching a new jet, it’s important to survey the market trends, regulatory changes, likely technological developments, and customer preferences. None of that was done here”.

Oh, and it sure is an ugly brute too.

Well as nice as the 380 is upstairs.... if the a/c will result in heavy losses then I don't care how nice it is. The bean counters are right, twin engine a/c with fewer seats are more economical and at the end of the day that's how airlines stay in business.

I hope FZ takes over some of the short-mid haul routes. There are a few that aren't very well suited to the 777 :confused:

Some route done by FZ some by 787. Problem between now and the move to DWC @2025+ is peak arrival plus pax numbers. Phase in of 779 might see some of the lighter 380 routes . Maybe the fat lady is warming up her voice!

I believe ek is adding 98 pax in y on the new a380 ?
Anyone can confirm this ?