Someone placed that missive on this forum soon after the incident but it vanished real quick.:sad:

didn't vanish just on the Middle East subforum.

Emirates A388 - KJFK Canarsie GA from 200 feet AGL
 

This one on Dec 4th - EK207. Pretty flat there but still...

Here's the Av Herald's report on the JFK incident:

Incident: Emirates A388 at New York on Dec 4th 2017, at about 200 feet in the middle of turn to runway 13L

It's pretty clear from external sources that, despite Avherald's sensational headline, EK207 was nowhere near that close to the ground (probably around 350' AMSL).

Though that's still way too low. :O

It’s pretty clear that you don’t have a clue about what happened ! This was a serious incident with gpws included and it’s the second event in less than a year, same aircraft type, same company, same good weather, zero skills, zero airmanship and situational awareness...
The most funny thing is the desperate attempt to blame atc and external factors, serioysly ?

I don't recall making excuses for anyone - what's your point ?

JUst a question, what is the minimum for the approach?

800 feet MDA on the VOR 13L at JFK if that's what you are asking. They were visual and well past the MAP of DMYHL when the tower told them that they were extremely low.

sounds like folks are drop-dead tired

TCAS started the experiment....lets see how far we can push them until they fall over.

It seems they have the answer now..it includes a burning 777 on the end of a runway, and nearly parking a couple go A380s in a few random suburbs around the world.

Trouble is...those that asked the question are not listening to the answer.

Yup, that point of course being the start of the turn....for those not familiar with it the approach there is a requirement to have the lead in lights in sight... One trap I’ve seen one or two almost fall into is not noticing that you need a slightly flatter than the normal 3degree approach from DMYHL to 13L and it can be difficult to pick up the 13L threshold/VGSI in amongst the general lighting clutter.....so it you hit DMHYL and start hustling down at Whatever gives you 3 degrees FPA you can start heading into interesting territory....

That said this approach looks like a heck of a outlier..be interesting to find out the human factors... if we ever do...

It’s built around a 2.8 degree slope.....

Craggy the Vasi is based on 2.8 for 13L but the actual angle assuming you cross DMYHL at 1000’ is more like 2.5 and is the reason why those unfamiliar on the bus using FPA screw it up as they go straight to 2.8 without ever considering the extra distance flown due to the turn.
Much easier on the Boeing..click off the AP and 500fpm till the Vasis look good then 6-700fpm at 145kts GS :cool:

Rumours say the A380 training team has been fired because of the New York incident?

Oliver - wrong info !

That would mean a 100% face loss.

So this will simply not happen.

TCAS viewing of 13L arrivals, while facing NW on P, are the interesting?
338’ inside of DMYHL instead of being at 700’, wouldn’t be the worst approach observed.