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PorridgeStirrer 24th Aug 2017 12:02

2 person Fightdeck rule
 
Anyone hear of a recent incident? Luanda bound apparently.

777-200LR 24th Aug 2017 12:40

Lusaka/Harare

Odins Raven 24th Aug 2017 12:58

If you know the route, you know the gossip. Now spill the beans 😎

donpizmeov 24th Aug 2017 13:37

Be careful with this one. Two conflicting rumours around. The truth will come out. Best wait till then I reckon.

BigGeordie 24th Aug 2017 14:16

Two rumours! Even better! Let's have them both then.

lospilotos 24th Aug 2017 15:12

Perhaps it's time for a 3 person flight deck rule, or 4, or 5, or 6, or wait... Perhaps just trust the 2 highly trained and scrutinized persons you put there in the first place?

harry the cod 24th Aug 2017 15:14

Agree with Don.

If you're desperate to discuss this incident, or rumour, head off to the dedicated Emirates forum or save it for your RTGS. Putting this out on a public forum is hardly sensible given the content, IMO.

Harry

Airmann 24th Aug 2017 16:26

Or how about better care is taken of pilots and cabin crew to stop them going off the deep end in the first place.

And better monitoring of mental health. Why just a physical check once a year (or twice depending on age). Why not a mental check? Good body bad brain may lead to bad results.

Or are companies too scared that far too many of their crew wouldn't be class 1 mentally fit?

Emma Royds 24th Aug 2017 16:54

It would appear that the far more sinister version of events that is spreading rapidly, is untrue based on information I heard from people who know the Purser and the Captain involved.

PositiveRate876 24th Aug 2017 17:17

Let's hope this incident results in cancellation of the current flight deck policy.

A320ECAM 24th Aug 2017 18:41

Guys, what on Earth has happened? The two persons flight deck policy is supposed to be a safe procedure!

BA, on the other hand, do not have this policy and therefore I would expect something serious to have happened...

777-200LR 24th Aug 2017 19:59

The conflicting rumors may be as a result of some mentioning this happened on a flight to LAD. Those with an investigative eye will see it was on the way to LUN

pfvspnf 25th Aug 2017 00:48

Wtf happened ?

JAARule 25th Aug 2017 01:10


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 9871599)
Be careful with this one.

It is sadly indicative of the rule of fear and paranoia with which the airline is governed that to speak of a rumour you couldn't help but hear is to risk unmentionable punishment.

donpizmeov 25th Aug 2017 05:06

Not what I meant JAA. There are two rumours. One exciting, one sad. Best we wait and find out what happened before jumping to decisions.

g109 25th Aug 2017 08:24

So what exactly happened? whats the point of discussing things when we don't know what happened

LivingINtheDream 25th Aug 2017 09:14

Spot on JAA. Unfortunately the usual protagonists (trolls) are quick to yank the chain and keep the minions on the party line. Sad indeed.

WakeTurb_69 25th Aug 2017 10:25

Is it possible that a sudden decrease in "Testosterone supplements" could have adverse effects on ones mental well being as much as the physical? I for one am expecting to see some serious withdrawal symptoms amongst certain crew members.

pilotguy1222 25th Aug 2017 20:58

Interesting that as I checked for some alt/ias info on EK713 on a popular flight tracker, the flight does not exist on the 21st.
Both legs the day before, both legs the day after.

Consol 25th Aug 2017 23:41

A bit of a pointless debate here with just hints. If it's just gossip then let it go away. If an event occoured that could inform other professionals of the risks involved with this policy and the circumstances so we can learn from it and try and make our operations safer, then tell a bit more. Certainly do not embarrass innocent participants or give away sensitive security information.


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