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KippaLippa 26th Aug 2017 12:29

Here it is. The truth!
 
Is this all about that flight where a purser did the thing nobody knows about while being there where we cannot know with the other guy, allegedly flight crew, who in turn did or perhaps did not what we don't know while we all thought he should have definitely done some other unspeakable thing?
am I right?

luvly jubbly 26th Aug 2017 13:17


Originally Posted by KippaLippa (Post 9873515)
am I right?

I cant say

glofish 26th Aug 2017 16:57

Yeah, unfortunately i can't say anything either.

I am too important and too far up the knowing chain to be able and allowed to disclose any important information. I really know the whole tru ... ehh rumour and i am so well informed, disclosure would harm the whole industry, it can only be burdened by my holy experience and position.

Sorry folks, it's not for the plebs. Keep on rowing and worshipping the holy whatever.

Jack330 26th Aug 2017 19:48

I just heard about the knockout... I mean WTF

5star 26th Aug 2017 20:23

the 2man cockpit rule is not only a joke but has always been a huge safety risk. Kudos to BA for never applying this BS.

fatbus 26th Aug 2017 20:27

Is it the airlines or regulators that imposed this stupid rule?

galaxy flyer 26th Aug 2017 23:07

Fatbus,

Have you heard of the German Wings suicide flight? Do you not think having someone to open the door a good idea?

GF

cerbus 26th Aug 2017 23:25

Is it true the captain restrained the purser while they were in the cockpit and had a little fun?
Sounds like a good time and the Mile High Club box was checked!

pfvspnf 27th Aug 2017 00:35

Reminds me of the Saudi incident , captain and purser punching each other , would really like more details on this one .

JAYTO 27th Aug 2017 01:16

This needs to be discussed. Not brushed under a carpet and hope it goes away.

I for one do not feel at all comfortable sitting in my cockpit with someone behind me. Especially when I am meant to be facing forward minding the ship.
Now if said person sitting behind me decides it's time to meet his maker. Things could get really bad really quick.

J.

natops 27th Aug 2017 03:34

@galaxy flyer: No

pilotguy1222 27th Aug 2017 06:24

Except is was not the captain and purser. It was the FO and the purser was a male.

A320ECAM 27th Aug 2017 16:02

Excuse me you expats.

The two-person flight deck policy is a cracking idea. It stops mentally ill morons ruining our profession even more by parking the aircraft full of innocent pax on the side of a mountain on purpose. If you fail to realise this, then maybe you shouldn't be in the flight deck in the first place.

BigGeordie 27th Aug 2017 16:13

The mentally ill morons we are worried about aren't pilots.

5star 27th Aug 2017 16:33

320ecam
your post proves to all the 'expats' over here that you have no clue what you are talking about....

it is the weakest link in aviation security...

A320ECAM 27th Aug 2017 16:36


Originally Posted by 5star (Post 9874473)
320ecam
your post proves to all the 'expats' over here that you have no clue what you are talking about....

it is the weakest link in aviation security...

How is it the weakest link? What are the chances of a pilot-suicide event when there is another crew member in the flight deck, even if it is CC?

And BigGeordie, there are some pilots out there with mental issues. Surely you won't know because it is hard to see mental illness (obviously). The stresses from the industry can and are having massive impacts on pilots and their mental/emotional/psychological health and if you cannot see this, then I recommend a trip to your local opticians.

pilotguy1222 27th Aug 2017 17:10


Originally Posted by A320ECAM (Post 9874474)
How is it the weakest link? What are the chances of a pilot-suicide event when there is another crew member in the flight deck, even if it is CC?.

A job as a CC is not difficult to get, and takes no preparation.
A commercial airline pilot job takes a lot of money and a lot of time to get, IF you can get it. Who's to say this psycho can fly in the first place. It is also a numbers game. Chances of a looney CC or pilot? I know where to place that bet.

99.9% of the CC aren't going to be able to stop anything anyway, and after this incident, there won't be any male cc in the flight deck when I step out.

777-200LR 27th Aug 2017 17:21


and after this incident, there won't be any male cc in the flight deck when I step out.
Thats exactly the way I see it. You're the commander, and will have to make the judgement call, if they don't like it or feel 'uncomfortable', let them report it

Talparc 27th Aug 2017 18:51

After Hassans eMail I believe the clock on the 2 person flightdeck rule is ticking

BigGeordie 27th Aug 2017 19:05

What we need is a three person rule. No cabin crew on the flight deck unless both pilots are there.


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