PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Middle East (https://www.pprune.org/middle-east-44/)
-   -   Wizz open day Dubai (https://www.pprune.org/middle-east/597466-wizz-open-day-dubai.html)

aussiefarmer 25th Jul 2017 06:24

Wizz open day Dubai
 
For those of you with either bucket about to spill, specially our "underage" senior FOs, Wizz is coming again to Dubai offering A320 Commands.

Wizz Air Pilot Recruitment Open Day and full recruitment in Dubai, 16-19 August 2017

Are you a pilot searching for new challenges and fast career development? Do you have the ambition to become an airline captain but you never got the chance? Join our next recruitment event in Dubai, learn more information about the career opportunities and employment conditions at Wizz Air and become the next WIZZ pilot.

Venue: Golden Tulip Al Barsha Hotel, AL BARSHA 1, 125962, Dubai (next to Sharaf DG metro station)

Date and starting time: 16&17 August, 9AM starting with an Open Day and in the afternoon you will have the chance to take part in the interview session.

Our team will be available also on 18 August afternoon for personal interviews at your convenience!

If you are successful on the interviews, you can complete your screening with the simulator check on the 18-19 August.

To get more information on the exact schedule and to confirm your participation please contact us at [email protected].

We look forward to meeting you in person!

More on https://wizzair.com/en-gb/informatio...areer/pilots#/

Global_Global 25th Jul 2017 09:31

Will be hard with a Capt base of E36K and a Capt top of E52K according to PPJN.... Is that before tax and without per hour? Anyone can compare the takehome after tax for both?

donpizmeov 25th Jul 2017 09:57

An interim position for those that have gone through EKs open and just punishment, sorry I meant review system perhaps?

Donovan 25th Jul 2017 17:50

so sad, if your not holding one of the "elite" passports you won't be selected. "apply only if you have the right to live and work in EUR"...

White Knight 25th Jul 2017 18:14


Originally Posted by Donovan
so sad, if your not holding one of the "elite" passports you won't be selected. "apply only if you have the right to live and work in EUR"...

And your point is?????

The Outlaw 26th Jul 2017 04:43


Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes (Post 9841463)
Wizz recruiting in Dubai - sums up the general problems at EK and sadly should also serve as a warning to those who still want to join EK!

The fact that a low cost carrier with lower salaries etc is coming to Dubai to recruit pilots from EK (and fly Dubai I suppose) is something that used to be unheard of. Years ago it didn't happen, ever! The "if you don't like it leave" mentality of management has come back to bite them.

Wizz must think pilots will join them and this is a sad reflection on EK. The massive loss of moral at EK, the decreasing work conditions and more worryingly the lack of anything being done to stop the loss of experienced pilots continues to be astonishing.

Sad !

And I see lots of adverts for EK - "time to soar"(spend lots of time I'm air not on the ground!), "experience Dubai"(not there much always flying), "time to live" (away from home) etc etc you'll get the drift once you're here!

There have been a few carriers come to the UAE looking to fill their ranks. There is about 8000 pilots in the immediate area so the fishing is pretty good! When you add all the ways that these UAE company's are demotivating, angering, disciplining etc. their staff its really a no brainer! Its all down to one individual...welcome to 1500's mindset on dealing with staff. Its not even sad anymore, its like watching a train wreck in progress and it's already too late to fix it - the rot is now in the ranks and it spreads fast. There is no accountability, that can only be present in a person with a degree of ethics.

In the meantime, Jet2, Wizz, Norwegian, Korean, the Chinese, USA carriers etc. need pilots. They'll keep up the shoddy treatment and bad rosters anyway so it helps bring these carriers to town with better and better deals.

PilotRoger 8th Aug 2017 09:58

Well, I remember RYR going to Doha just days after all the drama with QTR...
it really looks like a fishing pond

Joker11 8th Aug 2017 14:21

I wish they would look for ops personal.

kimono1950 8th Aug 2017 14:29

Hahahahah ! These suckers came to Vietnam a few months ago and got......nothing.:hmm:

Not even the P2F in Vietjet and VNA were interested in this ****y airlines. Wizz toke a couple of guys as DEC, but what I have heard, they are thinking leaving the boat, less than 3 months on board !:ugh:

PilotRoger 10th Aug 2017 09:20


Originally Posted by kimono1950 (Post 9855943)
Hahahahah ! These suckers came to Vietnam a few months ago and got......nothing.:hmm:

Not even the P2F in Vietjet and VNA were interested in this ****y airlines. Wizz toke a couple of guys as DEC, but what I have heard, they are thinking leaving the boat, less than 3 months on board !:ugh:

And I believe they are going to Vietnam again!!! and other countries too...

so either the last time worked nicely (which by your info is not true)
or they desperately are in need of pilots, but my point is, you just don't throw thousands of euros if the last time didn't work out.

Or, they have just no idea what are they doing.... (my bet is here)

Cak 10th Aug 2017 23:23

It worked good last time in Vietnam and already 2 times in Dubai and they are desperate. They don't aim to employ F/Os. Their target are experienced F/Os, which will be offered DEC. The terms are really ****ty, but for the left seat, they will have enough interested guys probably. After 500h PIC all those guys will leave

my salami 11th Aug 2017 02:41


Originally Posted by Cak (Post 9858516)
. After 500h PIC all those guys will leave

I've been told Bratislava base could be very interesting for single guys....

777-200LR 11th Aug 2017 07:22

Way cheaper to take a lady out on a date....until you marry her and she says she wants to move to Dubai for a change

PilotRoger 11th Aug 2017 08:45


Originally Posted by 777-200LR (Post 9858733)
Way cheaper to take a lady out on a date....until you marry her and she says she wants to move to Dubai for a change

hahahahahahhaha this comment made my day :D

Luke SkyToddler 11th Aug 2017 08:58

Kimono they got about 15 guys from Vietnam last time, most of the senior VNA A330 FOs went there for a start, plus a number of A320 captains from VNA and VJ. Wizz are coming back again to Vietnam in a few weeks, as you know, they were very happy with the result of their last fishing trip.

kimono1950 13th Aug 2017 17:50

I am sorry, but your informations are wrong. Just a couple of guys left and are thinking leaving the wonderful Wizz. A lot of went to some carriers in Asia , like H-K Airlines or JSP.
Wizz is coming back to try to convince the few guys who didn't t show up last time.

I tell you, not even the P2F in VNA ( and in VJ ) want to go to Wizz.:hmm:

Callsign Kilo 14th Aug 2017 10:09

I'm not at Wizz Air however my airline as seen a bit of success with their recruitment campaigns in the desert. Must say, I enjoy flying with ex EK & EY operators. Very capable FOs, command or very close to command ready plus walking & talking confirmation of why people should avoid the sandpit. The more the merrier.

natops 16th Aug 2017 22:14

N77 ive met quite a few fo's who left ek months before they were eligible for command. Dont assume anything, these were good guys/ operators, and just tired of the middle eastern way of doing things.

Are you really that shallow thinking guys joining other airlines are guys who failed at their previous ones? Maybe a few but defenitely not all.

💪🏻

Callsign Kilo 16th Aug 2017 22:42

n77

I'm almost certain command opportunity would've been available at EK and the likes, however in the cases of the guys who I've flown with, it's quite unlikely that their 'seniority' would've have had them anywhere near a command course in or around their time of departure. I know this as I am aware of previous colleagues from my last outfit who joined EK maybe 6-7 years ago and they have just seen an upgrade in the last 12 months or so (B777).

Whilst not everyone is suited to the left seat, I can recognise command potential and these guy's had it. Neither would have touched command in Dubai as they had simply had their fill. With their jet time, anything between 18 to 24 months could see them, potentially, embarking upon a short haul command upgrade with my operator. Probably round about the same time as they'd be embarking upon a CU if they'd remained in the ME.

I've done this job long enough to be able to filter out the BS when it's being line fed. Unfortunately I've heard enough & seen enough about the sandpit to know why particular people are desperate to leave. Regardless of their command ability or opportunity.

Fat Busdriver 17th Aug 2017 15:35

I do understand that EK has a lot of issues to adress, but to go to Wizz and fly as hard as EK and only earn half as captain what an EK FO makes is crazy! Forget that you will get any good bases new Captains end up in places like Craiova, Iashi, and god knows of any other ****holes you can imagine in Eastern Europe/Former SSSR! My friends that commute to western Europe for free, it takes up to 20 hours to get home via Luton or Dortmund. No matter what you think of sandpit its still 100 times better in Dubai! But if your plan is to gett 500h on A320 and then leave thats the only wise idea joining Wizz. But do remember it will still take you at least 1 year if you are direct entry.

Good luck
Former Wizz driver

koldovika 20th Aug 2017 08:26

anyone who attend
What did they say, offer?

thank you

777-200LR 24th Aug 2017 10:04

Their recruitment team managed to make a few FOs consider it for all of 10 minutes. There was tons more interest when QR came to town.

WakeTurb_69 25th Aug 2017 07:33

It actually wasn't such a terrible package. Like anywhere it had its weaknesses but it also had benefits.

Horses for Courses I say.

SOPS 25th Aug 2017 15:10

Just out of interest, how much do they pay?

seventhreedriver 25th Aug 2017 19:54

Depends on your position, your base, your experience, your sector numbers. I got anywhere between 4500 and 10500 EURs after taxes, social security and other deductions. 4500 as a brand new cpt with around 30 sectors, and 10000 with a bit more experience (10 line training days + 4000hours CPT experience at Wzz, working max hours)

SoundLesS 30th Aug 2017 00:10

It's an average of 5000 to 7000 for new captains increasing to around 8000 to 10000 after 6 years. Then if you get LTC or management pilot you can add 1000-2000 more. If you then have a monthly expense of 800-1500 euros it's not too bad afterall, living in Europe. It's not all about the money on the account at the beginning of the month, but in the end of it which counts...people tend to forget about that.

dirk85 30th Aug 2017 06:49

You will never make anywhere close to 10000 in wizzair. Gross maybe, but not even that.

SoundLesS 30th Aug 2017 07:49


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 9876883)
You will never make anywhere close to 10000 in wizzair. Gross maybe, but not even that.

I know already a few people who gets that so it's correct. But they are also LTC. You will have to work for it though, many hours and sectors so it won't happen in every base.

dirk85 30th Aug 2017 15:49

Sure, maybe the one month in the year when they fly 120 block hours and 80 sectors, a TRI/TRE make that money, gross. Maybe.
Then there is the small problem called taxes and social security, which the majority of the western pilots in wizz happily decide to ignore. Until the taxman comes knocking at their nice house in London or Germany.
10000 is certainly not representative of the average monthly pay, and anybody saying otherwise is wrong.
Ask them to show you the payslip.

And before you ask, I worked there, so I know more than a few people, and I know the contracts offered, with all the tricks involved.

SoundLesS 30th Aug 2017 15:58


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 9877428)
Sure, maybe the one month in the year when they fly 120 block hours and 80 sectors, a TRI/TRE make that money, gross. Maybe.
Then there is the small problem called taxes and social security, which the majority of the western pilots in wizz happily decide to ignore. Until the taxman comes knocking at their nice house in London or Germany.
10000 is certainly not representative of the average monthly pay, and anybody saying otherwise is wrong.
Ask them to show you the payslip.

And before you ask, I worked there, so I know more than a few people, and I know the contracts offered, with all the tricks involved.

That is why I wrote from 8000-10000 because it depends on the sectors and the position, but 10k net is possible, not taking into account your own problems with taxes and social security in your "home country".

dirk85 30th Aug 2017 16:12

If you say so.

On average, people should count on not much more than half of that for a normal Cpt, and they won't be disappointed.

SoundLesS 30th Aug 2017 16:27


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 9877448)
If you say so.

On average, people should count on not much more than half of that for a normal Cpt, and they won't be disappointed.

Well I guess you didn't read my initial post since I actually stated what you just replied now, for new captains...

dirk85 30th Aug 2017 17:15

That's the thing, reading what you wrote there people might assume a Captain after 6 years makes that money. That is false, as I pointed out.

SoundLesS 30th Aug 2017 17:20


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 9877522)
That's the thing, reading what you wrote there people might assume a Captain after 6 years makes that money. That is false, as I pointed out.

It's not false if those criteria are met as I wrote previously, you even agree on it by saying "if you say so". I know people in the company, most likely not the ones that you know, so it's a fact, and people who read this should know that you can get this money in end. Again after many years and people will most likely leave before that...

dirk85 30th Aug 2017 18:45

I was bring sarcastic.

Being 900 hours the yearly limit, and 400 the average number of sectors flown, emphatizing what you can make flying 120 hours with 60 sectors in a month is useless, unless you also specify that the rest of the months you would get just slightly more than the basic salary.

And still this is all without paying for social insurance, pension and income taxes.

End of discussion for me.


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:09.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.