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The Outlaw 16th May 2017 17:04

JA calls it...
 
So, anyone else hear that JA throws in the towel at a DXB based carrier?

It looks suspiciously like the lower compartments have flooded.

The ingress of the sea continues over the water tight bulkheads of the HMS Unsinkable, didn't Thomas Andrews once say "we just build them better"?

Lets see who shows up on the next lifeboat.

Any guesses?

Jack D 16th May 2017 18:44

J A
 
Jennifer Aniston ?

glofish 16th May 2017 19:46

No, Julian Assange!

Jumeirah James 16th May 2017 20:27

Jeffrey Archer gets my vote

fantom 16th May 2017 20:31

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

buggah. Glo got there first.

Got2luvem 16th May 2017 21:00

Julie Andrews ??

fliion 16th May 2017 21:14

Calls what? The hills alive with the sound of 🎼

Dropp the Pilot 16th May 2017 21:37

Julie Andrews. It's a longstanding thing.

Dropp the Pilot 16th May 2017 21:38

Add your "longstanding" double-entendre here.

TangoUniform 16th May 2017 22:25

TOGA The Orange Guy A.... Not to be confused with TCAS or EGT.

The Outlaw 17th May 2017 02:08

Wow, you really have to spell it out for some heh?

fliion 17th May 2017 03:29

I like 'ATC' for TICH's boss.

donpizmeov 17th May 2017 04:06

ATC is clever. Like it.

jack schidt 17th May 2017 04:51

J.A

Just Another (that's as ineffective as the rest).

Good day,

J

Ngenfire 18th May 2017 12:56

"Just About" hanging in there and signing FCIs today.

EchoKilla 18th May 2017 16:33

Still in the building but Just About to go. Papers submitted in the outbox...

donpizmeov 19th May 2017 07:23

Rumour has it TICH is on the way out as well.

KippaLippa 19th May 2017 07:38

amusing
 
This thread is very amusing.
incomprehensible, but who cares.....

fliion 20th May 2017 15:42

Latest & widely circulating- A show down meeting attended by up to 20-30 mid to snr level managers turned testy with ATC responding (shouting appparently) to CM's outside box suggestions - "you dont know the culture & how things work here"

Shifting sands

BigGeordie 20th May 2017 16:23

You mean the culture of greed, fear, corruption and wasta? I would say that IS the problem with 'the way things are done around here'. I'm sure CM is learning pretty fast.

TangoUniform 20th May 2017 17:18

B.G., you forgot arrogance, hubris, and incompetence.

flareflyer 21st May 2017 01:46

ATC?????
Please explain.......

Kamelchaser 21st May 2017 02:18


"you dont know the culture & how things work here"
My response to that would be that things are no longer "working around here". In pretty much every department. After many years in this company, I'm afraid to say that this outfit is in complete meltdown.

ruserious 21st May 2017 09:26

At a guess the T is for THE, the A is the first name of a noble leader and the C is for whatever you think it should stand for

MR8 21st May 2017 12:52


Originally Posted by ruserious (Post 9777551)
At a guess the T is for THE, the A is the first name of a noble leader and the C is for whatever you think it should stand for

A nobleman starting with a "C"?? Must be a Count!!!

perthbound 21st May 2017 16:51

JA= J. Alsfrd
Turned in his notice last week some time, dont know why but he is on his way out.

Enos 21st May 2017 17:25

Always thought TOGA was a decent guy.

Believe he's been fired at least once in his time with the company, which in this part of the world makes him ok.

Better than TCAS for sure!!

Talparc 22nd May 2017 07:27

The Rats are leaving the sinking ship!

Ngenfire 22nd May 2017 09:20

Talparc - A bit harsh with regard to JA.

Maybe, like many of us, one or both of his buckets are full and he is ready for something / somewhere else!

Panther 88 22nd May 2017 09:34

He seemed a nice enough fellow to me, but unless there was some backroom support we minions would never be let in on, saw very little effectiveness. Rosters, leave, change of accommodations, etc....no change. No "Rules of Engagement" with regard to scheduling/rostering were ever published as his goal on arrival was. Again, we aren't knowledgeable to what he may have prevented in the long run. Good luck to him and the relief of pressure of leaving.

Dirty Harrold 22nd May 2017 19:19

I would agree. JA was reasonably fair where it counted. His hands were tied from the beginning. Those issues such as rosters, leave, QOL, were not really in the control of FLT OPS from the beginning and I know that there really wasn't much he could do.

Typical of the outfit.

Dirty Harrold 22nd May 2017 20:18

They can try that approach but I would expect that to expedite the outflow and reduce the intake of "operational" staff.

They know they have to tread carefully but with every move they make they just keep helping with increasing the resignations while showing any new comers that coming to the show now is like going to the bar at closing time.

JAARule 23rd May 2017 03:39

Of all the sobriquets bestowed upon management types, AtC would have to be the most amusing, most succinct and without doubt the most fitting and deserved. Best new title of the decade.


Originally Posted by MR8 (Post 9777704)
A nobleman starting with a "C"?? Must be a Count!!!

:ok::ok::ok::ok:

Avid Aviator 23rd May 2017 18:19

JA, aka TOGA, never stood up for his people, never stood up to his boss TCAS and never told the owners what they needed to hear. He will live with that legacy, but I guess he has financial gain and several years of cushy hours and other perks to compensate him.
He was weak and even the locals saw through that, overlooking him for his long aspired tilt at the top job. Reap what you sow.
I'm sure those with kind words here have fair reason, but plenty of us have good reason to be happy to see the door slam on his arse on the way out.
Good riddance. Although I know what follows will be no better!

5star 24th May 2017 05:44

AA post: like

Filling deep pockets and other than managing an email inbox, zero to very limited action. They all call themselves 'captains' but none of them have any idea what we endure every month...
bring on the next one. Nothing will change anyway.

Schnowzer 24th May 2017 19:50


JA, aka TOGA, never stood up for his people, never stood up to his boss TCAS and never told the owners what they needed to hear.
He tried, got smacked down saw the writing on the wall. All managers at EK join being told they will be able to make a difference but are then just given accountability without any authority to make changes. Every now and then someone says what they think and they swiftly disappear from the fray. In training there were the culls of a few years ago, it also happened in recruitment. You can say anything you want as long as you agree with the boss; that is why we are looking for paddles!

PositiveRate876 25th May 2017 07:40


Originally Posted by Schnowzer (Post 9781434)
that is why we are looking for paddles!


I think it's beyond the paddles stage.
Now it's on to the "lets hope it's a padded iceberg!" stage.

Big Enos Burdette 25th May 2017 07:44

HD calls it too....

Mango 25th May 2017 08:08


Originally Posted by Big Enos Burdette (Post 9781808)
HD calls it too....

Got that email. Wish people would just say what's really on their mind. "Feel the wind and rain on my face"???? I wonder what he really wanted to say.

Craggenmore 25th May 2017 08:12


Originally Posted by Mango (Post 9781827)
Got that email. Wish people would just say what's really on their mind. "Feel the wind and rain on my face"???? I wonder what he really wanted to say.

He's looking forward to some quality links golf :ok:


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