Well, in my opinion, anyone who works a day off, joins the training department on a pay as you train basis, sells their leave, etc, etc has no reason to complain when Emirates treats us the way they do.

What did you think was going to happen?

You're basically pulling your pants down and bending over to pick up the soap and we're all getting b@ggered, not just you.

I hope it was worth it because you're contributing to them being able to give us no pay rise, which leads to no increase in our provident fund contributions, no increase in education allowance, whilst increasing our monthly medical insurance premiums, stopping us opting out of company accommodation, etc, etc.

All at a time when it's becoming more expensive to live in Dubai (Car Insurance increases, VAT being introduced next year, schools putting their fees up 4% year on year). I could go on and on.

Imagine if you'd all said "No"

None of us said NO to coming here . Even when things where better we turned a blind eye to things that we knew where wrong . It just did not effect us . The labor that was cheap and abused . The workers we saw in the buses drive by on the highway . The low pay for people of certain countries . The no rights in the country we chose to live in , the non union environment. Sure things where good before . We had days off , got our wide body commands , we turned a blind eye to all the negatives and told ourselves we where doing well . Can't help but feel that I , and others , where rather like young German officers in the 30s . Sure , the regime was nasty but we where doing well finally . And the conquests and glory followed . We chose not to see the bad .
Now the Russians are at the gates and we can see the madness of the leadership and we are losing what we had . Now we condemn the place we happily served . Ah , but it is too late . We where complicate .

NO..... And you can say NO if you are stupid enough to answer the phone!

Heard thru the rumor mill a couple of guys on a N.A. ULR said NO when called on the layover to pick up the pieces of a sick captain on a training flight.

thatwasclose, amen to that

TU

Would depend on how much notice they got I guess. If the Company gives you the required notice, you will not have a choice.

DS

Contrary to what we think is a contractual increment, the 3% step is not automatic. It should be, and has been other than this year and 2008 but it's awarded 'discretionally'. That one word changes a contractual right into an expected one.

Sadly, that's a big difference!

Harry

... and this closes the circle of this thread right down to "discretion" in the OMA.
If anyone gives any kind of discretion now, he gives up any right to complain about any other "discretion" not awarded.

@HTC, and therein lies the rub. The trick is remain contactable but unobtainable, at least that is until 12hrs before your scheduled departure.
Not easy to do, but certainly doable and in my case something I've practiced after falling foul when in similar circumstances I was "asked" to operate with about 5hrs notice. I asserted to the person what the OMA requirement was, which resulted in a delayed flight and a warning letter for yours truely, from that day to this I am contactable but unobtainable on ULR layovers and in complete compliance with the letter of the OMA wording.

Hmmm yeah references to Nazism and Communism aren't over the top or anything. :rolleyes:

Please point me to one airline where self-interest doesn't rule all.

I am having a laugh reading these posts....Just as funny as their new freighter contract they're offering.
Went to a recent roadshow and what i read on their advert intially about the contract didnt sound "too" bad, but when questioned about it at the roadshow...OMG you have to be dumb to accept it!!
They us told they need 800 pilost by the end of this financial year.....GOOD LUCK!!!

The conditions are not good enough to retain, let alone attract enough pilots. It's a tough business anyway, but making money in the airline business without pilots is impossible.

They won't need us much longer......

Robot co-pilot successfully flies and lands Boeing 737 in simulator

Or.... they could have just used the autopilot. But, hey ho to each their own.

http://https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.scotsman.com/news/transport/easyjet-launches-biggest-pilot-recruitment-drive-yet-1-4446903/amp

Easyjet anyone?