F.cked up Management
 

EK. Nice PAX-Product on the whale especially.
But totally screwed up and useless Flightops Management. The Company winds out everything of their staff and doesnt care about any important inputs to improve your life.
Its not worth it. They are controll freaks and bean counters who do everything to make your private life miserable.

After going through most of these posts I must say that they are as interesting as they are shocking.

As I am not a pilot, but still fascinated with DXB and EK, currently working for a European flagship carrier, allow me this question: Is it that bad also for ground staff in, let's say, middle management positions?

I was looking into the option of applying with EK at some point but as I read this I am not sure whether I should really consider it. Is it only that bad for flying staff?


Thanks!

Hi Harry,

Without intending a thread drift, would you be able to say where you heard that? Many of us are trying to figure out what BA are doing but no one seems to know, rumours of a rebranded FPP, an MPL and also some rumours about it being self funded are floating about but nothing concrete ... you sound quite sure though.

Thank you :)

I don't know if joining EK was the worst decision I ever made. Lots of competition in that category.

I do know that leaving EK was the best decision I ever made. :ok:

it was only my 2nd worst decision, the worst decision was not to leave 7 years earlier

I'm happy to say my tour of duty is coming to an end, just another few months to go.

So happy to be getting away from the airline because is going down hill fast, very fast!!

I've not even got another job yet, I just need a break, this company has destroyed the love and passion I had for aviation. Need to take stock and reform.

Same here working on my escape plan without a job to go to yet.. I am happy to leave with no job just to get my sanity and dignity back.
This airline has made me a bad father and bad husband and cant wait to get out and fall in love with flying again. At the moment I hate what I do even though its been a childhood dream to be a pilot.
I have no regrets coming here as this was one of the best jobs in the World when I joined 10 years ago. Now its defo one of the Worst and pilots prefer to go to Qatar than come anywhere near here..

Thank you for this insight. I might really have to look into it further before I make a decision. Especially as my current airline is a great employer. Perfect work-life balance, good and friendly working culture and very good benefits. Always confirmed business class for duty travel, and even for leisure a C/J class listing usually is safe if you do your homework. Heard that might also be different at EK.

As my main idea is to just get out of Switzerland at some point, I just might look out for an assignment within my current employer. Besides that I was looking out to UA or SQ which might also be options.

Sunchaser to answer your questions about treatment of ground staff you will find some interesting infos here:

https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.com

I work here as a ground staff memmber. I hate every moment of it and I an looking to get out. My entire life has been consumed by my work. I got no life. My health is down the drain. My colleagues are leaving in droves. All my offdays end with a nightshift, which only leaves me with one day off.My first day back at work usually starts at 5-6 o'clock in the morning. I don't look forward to coming to work anymore. I lost my love and passion for aviation since coming here.

I have seen this site but to be honest I am not sure how neutral this is. Sounds to me like just hate being unloaded against EK.

Blogs like this are designed to be factual and not neutral but what is more telling is what drives and motivates someone to give up their time to set up such blogs and contribute to them. Especially when they probably moved to Dubai being reasonably positive in the first place.

Sunchaser do your self a favor, stay with your current airline, get married to a rich guy, start a family and travel positive space to DXB for a very short vacation 4 days max, be happy to see it out the window on your departure back home. Thats how much we like it here.

EK pilots arent unhappy with EK. They are unjaooy because their elitist asses are finally not special anymore and they have no clue why? They blame EK but they have to face the fact, being a pilot doesn't bring you chicks, money, power or chicks anymore. You're an employee and EK or any company doesn't give a crap who you are.

Face the fact guys. Flying changed. The Times of 200k and 2 flights a month have been long gone. Stop living in a dream and stop crying that you became a bad father/husband due to EK or flying. EK maybe changed but the world has changed. Flying has changed. Your love and passion was not for flying, it was for the aforementioned 4 things. They have gone, you have now a profession you actually need to work in. Poor you....

Oh this account will be banned as well :) gotta love the **** moderators here.

Only thing bad in EK is facing one of these ****ers in the FD. Good thing most of the CPTs and FOs accept what happened and still make the job nice.
Too bad the negative ****ers invest in making everyone around them negative as well. I was flying with an FO who was complaining about not having OFF days around leave or more productivity pay. The guy never had it in the first place but somehow missed it? Nope, just because some negative dick probably drained his positive feeling on an 8 hour flight and made him change.

Thanks dick

And that's supposed to be good advise....?

jetkopite and puff m'call,

Sad, but not surprised, to hear of your discontent with the job due to the way Emirates have managed to suck the joy out of flying. I experienced the same with both Emirates and my previous employer, the worst low cost airline in Europe (and still an embarrassment to the industry).

If it's of any interest, there is light at the end of the tunnel - I left Emirates, currently fly for a company I respect, have a great work/life balance and actually enjoy going to work. It took me 2 company changes and 9 years to actually enjoy the job of being a commercial pilot. I realise that it's a bit of a leap to leave the cloistered and elevated prison that is flying in Dubai but, believe me, there's nothing like being in charge of your own destiny and in control of the lives of you and your family -priceless!

Best of luck to both of you in your future endeavours.

I am male, my salary is actually quite good being about an average US MBA salary and I do live in a great relationship.
My airline already does offer positive space tickets in J for almost nothing and I get to travel to DXB on a regular basis on duty.

Basically what I wanted to find out here is whether EK is a good option to continue an airline management career path. I am the type of person who thinks that in aviation everyone contributes an equally important part to a common goal and that team spirit and motivation are paramount to reach this. Treating staff badly is not acceptable, regardless of the laws a company is bound to.

What I wanted, and still want to, is to move out of Europe at some point. Therefore I am looking into several options, one of which is just to take an abroad assignment with my current carrier. However, switching to another airline still is an option just to see how others are doing it. My love for aviation is still burning and I want to go on with this. I love the airliner lifestyle I am currently living so I wouldn't not switch if the outlook is worse.

Stay the hell away from EK then or any airline in the Middle East for that matter!

It's good that your love for aviation is still burning. But if there's one thing you could be almost 100% certain of, it's that moving to EK would piss on your bonfire. Be careful what you wish for amigo...

Absolutely get your point and I do want to avoid ending up in DXB but not liking my job. The overwhelming amount of negative comments towards ek are definitely to be considered.