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Originally Posted by Divertnow (Post 9742903)

Standard prune I guess. I agree completely with you. Whilst I consider these changes small, they are a step in the right direction. Still a long way off with the rosters and leave though and I can't see a light at the end of the tunnel with this one.

What is needed is a big chunk of cash on the table. And I mean a substantial increase to the basic pay which has been slipping behind inflation for many years. Breadcrumbs falling off the table in shape of ground pay doesn't make a huge difference and most importantly, it's not adding to the provident fund. TICH says in the forums that the money is not the right motivation. I say he's wrong.

While I agree that money isn't top of the list, what it will do is create some buy in from the pilot community and more people will presumably join, the hours drop etc. etc. However the bouncy castle inhabitants don't want this solution, because it'll affect their bonuses. Until we get rid of this system of rewarding them, nothing will change.

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Originally Posted by sluggums (Post 9742924)

Well for me it's pretty simple, FO plus wife and two kids. Not saving any money anymore. I might as well not be saving money in my home country. More money and I'll stay, which will help with rosters and lifestyle for all of us.

Pilot Attrition & Retention

Pilot attrition comes up a lot here. Namely, if the company is doing roadshows all over the world and going to great effort to recruit pilots, why do they not improve conditions to reduce attrition?

It occurs to me maybe management actually does want (some) pilot attrition.

I fly with basically 3 types:

1. Guys who are happy, not unhappy, or at least the job serves their purpose and career goals.
2. Guys who are unhappy but their spirit is broken and will just take whatever abuse comes their way.
3. Guys who are unhappy and rage against the machine, poisoning minds in the opinion of management.

The first 2 groups are stable, but I think management would be happy to have guys from the last group leave the company regardless of their level of experience. The trouble is the pointless irritations that could be easily remedied (many of them cost neutral) hit everyone, not just the guys the company views as malcontents. A shame really because it occurs to me that a lot of the guys in the third group actually don’t want to leave and are just voicing their dissatisfaction in an attempt to improve things and maybe move back into the first group, where they must have started out initially.