No more accommodation allowance EK
 

This is a rumour coming out of accommodation. Before getting too excited it is only being discussed as a cost cutting option and I do not know if it will affect those who have bought property.
For those of us who have already been forced into a move to Meydan this won't be an issue.
As we have been made aware that our senior management do read these forums, who feels this would be a step too far? I've asked colleagues who have said they will leave or seriously consider it.
At the last fleet forum we were asked to actively encourage our friends to join Emirates, this will become near impossible to do if negative changes continue to be made.

Alan Pardew

I seriously hope this is a wind-up.

It would be a step too far and would lead to my instant submission of resignation. It would also be an indication of blatant desperation and would be an embarrassment to EK as a failure, I don't think they want to air such a statement.

On the other hand, nothing surprises me anymore and if true it would be an indication of way bigger issues on the horizon making a resignation now a smart move.

I think what is actually being tossed around is that there will be no further offer of accommodation allowances to new hires or employees being force moved to the labour camps.

New joiners not being offered it would be more likely, or at least the first move towards a company wide change.
What must the pilot recruitment team think?

If true, they just greatly accelerated exit strategy. :ok:

If they stop offering it to new joiners I would think it would make recruitment much harder. If they take it away from people already here it will make retention much harder. I think it would end up costing more than it saves.

The same happened in 2009,although the Company kept the option open for those willing to buy a property.
I seriously doubt the withdrawal of Accommodation Allowance for the individuals who are paying mortgage.
But then again....😱😱

MS

A friend sent me the accommodation departments reply when attempted to opt out earlier this month..

"We are not in a position to accept the date you are providing due to the financial impact which is associated with the potential duplication of costs and periods of dead rent by the Company, the date we are proposing you is 6 months from now and is obtained by the system."

Fecking hell AL - First the sack and now loosing your home.
He's one of our own he's one of our own
Up the Palace
(no not been drinking Pards will understand)

Stopping the allowance for those living out is not going to happen....maybe jut maybe if renting...but not mortgage holders.

Ending opting out for current and new joiners - more likely being looked at.

That said I know more than a few who are waiting to move into one and two bed rentals for reasonable price,once kids are off to college, so as to help pay for said college. If this option is not available it's sure to lead to more resignations.

It would be another short sighted, quick fix, 'shoot yourselves in the foot' move.

Based on that alone - it's sure to happen. It's the only way they know.

Slightly off topic but new joiners now being told no more car loan.

This is nothing new, been done before. The date "from the system" is to coincide with the end of EK's lease. Understandably, if they are not renewing the lease they don't want to pay for that plus allowance at the same time.

This thread was started by someone just running their mouth on a Thursday afternoon.
It maybe correct but if it is then it is just by chance and not by this person having any unique knowledge of the situation.

All the best to everyone in the coming year

Not quite accurate
 

Not quite accurate AP. Mate of mine got his the other day - 15 days after he applied. I have just been awarded mine and other mates are getting theirs. I know people who have been told 6 months but have a confirmed move out date. I think it depends on where you are staying and if there is a demand for that building.

It depends on the EK leasing contract. And it's nothing new.

I can imagine that they'll try to stop paying the allowance to new joiners.

That's EK's official business strategy, Big G. Never underestimate its power. Or stupidity. :)

Alan Pardew joined EK two and a bit years ago and enjoys a good wind up.

This confirmed to me by friends of his..!

Not really surprised, the muppets are in deep **** and more **** is coming up !
Funny or scary times a head, interesting to see their fight for survival, but sorry the game is coming to an tragic end sooner then they can imagine.

They would pretty much loose everyone who bought a property or rented a property. It would be a step too far. It would effect too many senior guys and the whole pilot body would be decimated at the higher end especially.

I can see it coming for those who try and move out or for those joining, but for those already out I really doubt it.

Felix. Apply the current management logic of EK. They will do the opposite of anything that is good for the company as they only focus on the current state of their bonus.

Senior pilots cost the company more. If cutting the accommodation allowance means saving EK money, they may well do it. We all know that money is the only thing that matters to them; they can't see any further than $$$.

Happy New Year
 

from one of our manuals


"It is the Company's Policy to create and maintain a working environment that facilitates employees' positive motivation and work satisfaction"

I give them a "1"..

Yeah not so sure it is that much difference because of school fees- i.e. 35 year old Captain new hire vs 55 year old (oldie)- the pay scale difference is not that much compared to the cost to the company of educating 2 or more kids. "oldies" tend to have University level kids , and since EK chooses not to subsidize that, saves them quite a bit .

May not be too far from the truth though. No smoke and all.
I was told by a crew member that the live out allowance is no longer available to all Cc grades that aren't married. Second hand info so that could well be bs.

I can't see the allowance being stopped but I can see them only paying what you need, if your mortgage or rent is less than your allowance.

I think the days of making a quick buck from the accommodation allowance are now numbered.

It's coming. Hope those who have bought are allowed to continue receiving allowance.

Unemployed Alan

FREEZE
 

It's here!:ugh:

Alan,

Could you please state where this information come from? Otherwise i would suggest you stop broadcasting BS. You are loosing credibility.

Check your company mail !

Nothing, just groupworld stuff.

The email doesn't have a 'dl' address list.

Affected staff are being emailed by name.

I have not requested to opt out but I received the email.

It only states that new requests to opt out will not be granted unless a property has been bought. This is effective for 6 months from 4th Jan.

So all new Hires have to stay in company accommodation ?

Aye, no choice, if they put you in a minger, you are stuck there

So, anyone currently considering joining EK and buying their own property has now to factor in circa 180k dirham pay cut pa and likelihood of qol being affected by location and/or standard of accommodation being disappointing.

Good job we aren't short of pilots as that might affect recruitment!

Good old EK, never failing to miss an opportunity, to miss an opportunity. They should write a book "How not too"

What a bunch of arrogant numpties :ugh:

The email says if you want to buy you still get the allowance doesn't it. So only those wishing to rent have to wait 6 months. It's happened before. It will happen again.

Ok Don, so it's ok to get the allowance so long as you prop up the corrupt real estate sector?
Boy, those Korean courses must be filling up quicker than usual!

Falcon I was correcting a previous post. This opt out freeze happened even when you were here.
There are bigger problems here than this one.