b727 line training..whats you idea?
 

hello my dear friends.i like to know your idea about this situation.
as a matter of fact its an airline that provides a line training with 500hrs of flight with b727 that's come with 28000$.im interested in cause im looking for a suitable job for 1.5 years with instrument rating.
the question is whats going on after that 500hrs of flight.what can i do with 500hrs of light of b727?please help thanks

Who is offering this?

There's a scam that's been running for several years out of India/Florida.

If it's the same people stay well clear!

scam dont do it

Also, what do you want to achieve with a B727 type rating? This type is at least 20 years past its use-by date and now truly and well rests in peace.

Steer well clear of this offer.

$28000 for a rating on a B727 ?!?!?!? Nuts....and where in the world even will you get a job with that rating?

Its not a scam,this airline operates under control of goverment.i like to know that what happened after this 500hrs of flight.i know there are some airlines thats hire non type rated firstofficers that just flown over at least a jet aircraft.is this correct?

You could get a job in the upcoming industrial powerhouse of Iran.

They'll probably be hanging on to their 727s a bit longer now Trump is in power.

It seems that your idea smells political ;) i dont care about who is where.i like aviation and follow to become an airline pilot just for flying:p

OK.

First of all, a type rating should be paid for by Your employer.

Second. What´s Your work worth? A salary maybe? Will You want a place to live in, keep it warm and possibly also have food on the table? Or do You value Yourself so low that You are even ready to pay for Your working a good day´s work?

Third. If You leave all professional ethos behind and are willing to pay for a type rating, at least pick one that will leave you somewhat employable thereafter. "Glass cockpit" and "widely operated worldwide" should be rather high on Your list of priorities. An old 3-crew fuel-to-noise converter like the 727, the worldwide operators of which You can count on the fingers of one hand and still have most to spare, has style points, true, but apart from that, I would not touch it with a 10 feet pole.

But after all, it´s your choice, as the consequences will be Yours as well to handle.

So: Choose wisely.

Thank you dear Tu.
This payment is for both type and line training.and this company is in my own city that i live.and i think they start to pay us after 200 hrs with minimum payment:ok:

Are you paying to be the flight engineer ?

Justin, most here paid more to fly a 737. Do what you need to do. Good luck

No I will pay for the right seat:p
And i hope that they send me to pass f100 type exam after this 500 hrs:O

People who pay instead of passing exams and selections will always be and forever the lowest form of aviation life.

Do what you like but read TU.144 answer carefully. The 3rd. point is something you really should think about.

At least put an extra "10" and pay for a 737 rating as many wrote...

Hi again��I want to hear your ideas again my friends about this program but they may have some changes in their schedule,they say you may select for a320 or 737 type and 250 hours of flight.i think it's better.but lower hours ...

Please
 

If you want to join an airline so eagerly then take your CPL/IFR pass all ATPL exams and apply in Europe with companies like Ryan Air, Easy Jet or Wizz. recently there had been an AD where even Austrian Airlines, Lufthansa and BA are looking for pilots (First officers). Even in the US are plenty of jobs for eager young fellows.
Please have a look around and don't pay for working. At the moment is tons of jobs out there where u get paid for the rating and the ocupation of the right seat.

Great idea. Go for it. Do they offer courses on a 707?

Go to Copa for free. They hire guys with 350 hours to. 737 or E190 time. Nobody flies 727s anymore. You would be wasting your money and I bet there is no guarantee of employment either. Give me the money instead. I could invest it in something for you with much greater return

I have cpl ir now and it's my dream to join Europian airlines cadet programs but I'm not eu citizen.this airline in my own country offer a320 or737 type plus line training.after this program i will have total flight hours of 400 hours including 250 hours with a320

CPL/IR with 150 hours ? Where are you from ?

I have flown 180 hours plus simulator till get my cpl and ir

Justin...

You come on this forum and ask us for our opinion... All the answers are negative and tell you not do it...
You are not accepting any advice and you just defend why you will do it anyways....

My question...
Why are you asking then?

Apparently you have enough money to spend on a useless type rating and pay some dodgy outfit some money...

I am sure your answer will be again why you will do it anyways.... Do it then and stop asking useless questions...

you are too young to understand our point.... Good luck....

Justin you've got it all wrong mate. The shorts360 is what you wanna be on, and settle for nothing less!

wtf is wrong with these guys???? I'm approaching 40, 10 kilos too heavy, a lousy pilot and an even worse lover. Yet I have 3 type ratings and was paid while I earned them. Obviously I'm lucky and these guys are "victims"...

It's a troll , don't feed!

Sad to say there are really people like this , paying for command ! Vietjet needs to be blacklisted

Vietjet used to PAY for training and ratings. I have good friends there. They NEVER paid for anything. Then the eurotards with stupid haircuts started offering to pay and the floodgates of mediocrity opened.

If i don't pay so there isn't any job for me with 27 years old.demand for this job is very high in my region and airliners prefers to hire those peoples whos fly with high performance jet aircraft

Justin19899

If you are genuine and seek advice, please listen to and answer the questions that posters have had the time and decency to give you. You have still not told us where you're from. At least answer this one question. Straight and simple.....

Harry

Are we still talking about the 727?

Justin you are very clearly a troll, bugger off.

I want to excuse my freinds because most of you see the subject of this topic about 727 but actually now i have new offer for a320 or737 type and line training

Then if it's A320 TR or 737 TR with a job offer (not interview!) at the end of it, it may be worth it.

However if it's paying for the TR, and then paying to fly an aircraft full of paying passengers for the airline for however many hours (i.e. pay2fly), then it is an absolute no.

Paying for the type rating is something I too would be guilty of as in this day and age at the lower end it is near impossible to find an employer willing to pay, however paying to work after qualifying on the type you have paid for is not something I could ever stomach and is a cancer that needs to be stamped out in whatever way possible.

Justin... congratulations.. this is the way to go...
A320 or B737.. both amazing... maybe you should take them both.. you will be hired soon after you payed. You managed to get the best that you can for money....

Congratulations again...

Case closed... lets all move on before he asks questions on the Tu144 rating that I have on offer...

I don't know why some of you getting angry or upset with my question.but thanks for your answers and helps.

Because we've all seen the status, standards and value of our profession eroded by kids willing to pay to work, rather than the other way around.

The 'kids' following a precedence set by those before them :rolleyes:

No. This is definitely something that has got far worse over the past 10-12 years. Can't blame kids though.
The airlines just stopped paying for training.
And those jets are so big and shiny
..........

I think I would fall into your definition of 'kid' being in my very early 20s. Now I can tell you it is absolutely not my fault, or the fault of those like me that the industry is the way it is and you have to practically pay for the oxygen at flight school. I don't like being lumped with the blame ... cos 10-12 years ago i really was a 'kid' and I can assure you it had nothing to do with me. And i haven't taken what you've said personally, what I'm saying can go for everyone in my age bracket.

Rather those that set this nasty precedent are already flying with you out in the sandpit in already holding various senior positions in companies.

Ah, here we go again with a P2F or SSTR pilot blaming senior guys for the P2F contract that they signed, despite the senior guys advising them not to. Exactly what was the senior pilot group meant to do about it, Kite? You blame them for not defending terms and conditions, but it is the P2F guys that helped the managers undercut the old conditions, bringing down the Ts and Cs for the entire industry. Why no pay rises in modern years? Because starry eyed dreamers are always willing to undercut us.