I have cpl ir now and it's my dream to join Europian airlines cadet programs but I'm not eu citizen.this airline in my own country offer a320 or737 type plus line training.after this program i will have total flight hours of 400 hours including 250 hours with a320

CPL/IR with 150 hours ? Where are you from ?

I have flown 180 hours plus simulator till get my cpl and ir

Justin...

You come on this forum and ask us for our opinion... All the answers are negative and tell you not do it...
You are not accepting any advice and you just defend why you will do it anyways....

My question...
Why are you asking then?

Apparently you have enough money to spend on a useless type rating and pay some dodgy outfit some money...

I am sure your answer will be again why you will do it anyways.... Do it then and stop asking useless questions...

you are too young to understand our point.... Good luck....

Justin you've got it all wrong mate. The shorts360 is what you wanna be on, and settle for nothing less!

wtf is wrong with these guys???? I'm approaching 40, 10 kilos too heavy, a lousy pilot and an even worse lover. Yet I have 3 type ratings and was paid while I earned them. Obviously I'm lucky and these guys are "victims"...

It's a troll , don't feed!

Sad to say there are really people like this , paying for command ! Vietjet needs to be blacklisted

Vietjet used to PAY for training and ratings. I have good friends there. They NEVER paid for anything. Then the eurotards with stupid haircuts started offering to pay and the floodgates of mediocrity opened.

If i don't pay so there isn't any job for me with 27 years old.demand for this job is very high in my region and airliners prefers to hire those peoples whos fly with high performance jet aircraft

Justin19899

If you are genuine and seek advice, please listen to and answer the questions that posters have had the time and decency to give you. You have still not told us where you're from. At least answer this one question. Straight and simple.....

Harry

Are we still talking about the 727?

Justin you are very clearly a troll, bugger off.

I want to excuse my freinds because most of you see the subject of this topic about 727 but actually now i have new offer for a320 or737 type and line training

Then if it's A320 TR or 737 TR with a job offer (not interview!) at the end of it, it may be worth it.

However if it's paying for the TR, and then paying to fly an aircraft full of paying passengers for the airline for however many hours (i.e. pay2fly), then it is an absolute no.

Paying for the type rating is something I too would be guilty of as in this day and age at the lower end it is near impossible to find an employer willing to pay, however paying to work after qualifying on the type you have paid for is not something I could ever stomach and is a cancer that needs to be stamped out in whatever way possible.

Justin... congratulations.. this is the way to go...
A320 or B737.. both amazing... maybe you should take them both.. you will be hired soon after you payed. You managed to get the best that you can for money....

Congratulations again...

Case closed... lets all move on before he asks questions on the Tu144 rating that I have on offer...

I don't know why some of you getting angry or upset with my question.but thanks for your answers and helps.

Because we've all seen the status, standards and value of our profession eroded by kids willing to pay to work, rather than the other way around.

The 'kids' following a precedence set by those before them :rolleyes:

No. This is definitely something that has got far worse over the past 10-12 years. Can't blame kids though.
The airlines just stopped paying for training.
And those jets are so big and shiny
..........

I think I would fall into your definition of 'kid' being in my very early 20s. Now I can tell you it is absolutely not my fault, or the fault of those like me that the industry is the way it is and you have to practically pay for the oxygen at flight school. I don't like being lumped with the blame ... cos 10-12 years ago i really was a 'kid' and I can assure you it had nothing to do with me. And i haven't taken what you've said personally, what I'm saying can go for everyone in my age bracket.

Rather those that set this nasty precedent are already flying with you out in the sandpit in already holding various senior positions in companies.

Ah, here we go again with a P2F or SSTR pilot blaming senior guys for the P2F contract that they signed, despite the senior guys advising them not to. Exactly what was the senior pilot group meant to do about it, Kite? You blame them for not defending terms and conditions, but it is the P2F guys that helped the managers undercut the old conditions, bringing down the Ts and Cs for the entire industry. Why no pay rises in modern years? Because starry eyed dreamers are always willing to undercut us.