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OurKing 5th Oct 2016 05:10

Joining Emirates
 
Good Day,

I am a 37 year old Chief Pilot of a Bombardier Challenger 601 in Portland, Oregon, USA. I have approximately 7000 hours total time, of which 5000 hours is jet, and 4000 of that is PIC.

After recently visiting Dubai on a flight, I fell in love with the city. After two days of staying in the area, I knew that I want to move there.

At this point, it is my career goal to get a job with Emirates. I just love int'l flying, and there was something about Dubai that really tickled my fancy.

With only corporate flying experience, what is a good next step career wise to get on with Emirates? Will they look to hire me with only corporate experience, or should I join a regional airline in the USA for a few years to build airline experience, while simultaneously having my application into, and updating it, with Emirates? Please, any wisdom and suggestions to get on with Emirates would be very welcomed.

Does Emirates have a hearing test criteria to be met? One of my ears is 100% good, the other has about 50% hearing loss (thank you aviation). Will this be sufficient for Emirates?

Thank you, and looking forward to hopefully flying with many of you soon!!

glofish 5th Oct 2016 08:14

OurKing

Concerning your hearing problem i would be careful. I have a similar one and the constant being sent to a specialist every year is wearing out. In this region they (EK and the GCAA) work with very generic medical tables and if you do not fit in, they send your to a GCAA approved specialist in a blink of a second. Now the quality of those specialists, to remain politically correct, is very widely spread on the Richter scale ..... Plus any pre-existing condition is duly noted around here and any future treatment difficult to obtain.
I would not recommend a move to this region with even a small dent in your medical record.

On another note, i suspect you might also have a eye/reading problem. Considering the other EK threads on this site, i can't fathom any sane colleague applying to EK no more. :ugh:

electricdeathjet 5th Oct 2016 08:25

I'm not going to say anything about EK, enough information here for you to make up your mind!

As for the medical, they are funny about preexisting issues so might be a problem.

Why not try Execujet, they have a base here, you might slip in quite nicely

buggerall 5th Oct 2016 08:57

Being 37, i.e. 2 years above 35 you are good to go. You will be very welcome here as that is an important criteria. In fact no PIC over the age of 35 has ever bent a jet at EK!

(Question. Are you just a regular troll or are ur veins full if costa caffeine?)

Talparc 5th Oct 2016 09:42

Ourking:

you are really funny, go back to costa nothing to see/hear here.

Iznogood 5th Oct 2016 09:49

Gentlemen (especially new joiners), until further notification, kindly avoid asking anything about EK

The Outlaw 5th Oct 2016 09:51

Our King,


I am a 50 year old Captain of a Airbus A388 in Dubai, Dubai, UAE. I have approximately 22,000 hours total time, of which 15000 hours is jet, and 12,000 of that is PIC.

After recently visiting Portland on a flight, I fell in love with the city. After two days of staying in the area, I knew that I want to move there.

At this point, it is my career goal to get a job with anyone else. I just love fun flying, and there was something about the USA that really tickled my fancy.

With only commercial airline flying experience, what is a good next step career wise to get on with your company? Will they look to hire me with only commercial airline experience, or should I join a executive operator in the USA for a few years to build experience, while simultaneously having my application into, and updating it, with your company? Please, any wisdom and suggestions to get on with your company would be very welcomed.

Does your company have a hearing test criteria to be met? One of my ears is 100% good, the other has about 50% hearing loss (from years of listening to endless BS). Will this be sufficient?

I propose you and I simply switch jobs. The 601 and the A380 are almost identical...they go up, they come down and if you're lucky they do so without leaving a trail of debris on the runway. I bet you wear a white shirt and black trousers...hey guess what?...so do I ! Same Same!



PS...I'll need your passport as well.

White Knight 5th Oct 2016 11:02

Outlaw. 'kin hilarious😂😂

Flyboy_SG 5th Oct 2016 11:32

OurKing, you got to live Atleast a year in the concrete jungle to feel what it is. And what world are you going to see in a 22hr layover ? Stay where you are.

I'm 35, flying the 777s in the desert and would love to have your place for half the wages. Enough said.

notapilot15 5th Oct 2016 13:59

OurKing, you may be overqualified.

Goal is to have a cadet program of rookies on Cirrus-SR22 to Phenom-100 to A380. Per unidentified sources, they allegedly asked Embraer and Airbus to have cockpit similarity between A380 and Phenom-100.

OurKing 5th Oct 2016 15:26


OurKing, you got to live Atleast a year in the concrete jungle to feel what it is. And what world are you going to see in a 22hr layover ? Stay where you are.
It's not about what I am going to see on a 22-hour layover. I want to come to Emirates to do the FLYING that they do. Nothing sounds like more fun than to live in Dubai and do ultra long range flying. I guess you could say that it is the glamour of that type of flying that appeals to me.

Upon hiring, how long before I'll be able to hold a line flying Dubai to US flights? For example, flight 229 & 230.

I've watched the recruitment videos for Emirates, and it seems like the possibilities at the airline are limitless. Do most who retire from Emirates stay in UAE, or move back to where they're from? Is there a visa issue with staying after retirement?

CTWO 5th Oct 2016 16:05

Best post ever!

@Ourking you are a definitely a troll...you are lucky Spanish inquisition is over...they used to burn the heretic!

Jack D 5th Oct 2016 18:19

Excellent
 
Outlaw one of the most amusing & creative responses in a long long time ! Have you considered a future career in scriptwting ? You have opened the door for similar imaginative responses , love it !

Twiglet1 5th Oct 2016 18:39

Outlaw
You must have put that together in the cruise! You should get another job.
Our King - about the ears, sorry say again...

SnowPilot 5th Oct 2016 19:03

OurKing send me a PM I can't PM you for some reason will give you some info.

777boyindubai 5th Oct 2016 19:10

Troll.com LOL! Great thread!

FL XXX 5th Oct 2016 20:15

Our king.

It sounds you are an EK management individual trying to provoke a discussion here. In case you are not, you must be suffering from a serious lack of common sense.

OurKing 5th Oct 2016 21:14


OurKing send me a PM I can't PM you for some reason will give you some info.
I cannot send you a PM either... Is there an email address that I may use to contact you?

GoreTex 6th Oct 2016 02:12

I was a 50 year old 380 skipper and left EK because its runned buy some crazy people who have no idea what they are doing

natops 6th Oct 2016 02:43

Trolllll alert
 
EK is desperately looking for new pilots on multimedia.

LinkedIn, Facebook and now here on Pprune as well!

Who, with half a braincell, would ask for such info, without having read the threads about EK...

Guys being demoted without a reason, no inflation correction since forever, bidding system not existing anymore, never have vacation at the same time as the rest of the family, etc etc.

Castle-dwellers need to come up with something better than this...

N.:ok:

OurKing 6th Oct 2016 04:07


Guys being demoted without a reason, no inflation correction since forever, bidding system not existing anymore, never have vacation at the same time as the rest of the family, etc etc.
This is the first that I've definitively heard the information above. I have been reading the threads here before registering, but because this forum is written with such cryptic wording, it's difficult for an outsider to truly know what is being said. For example, I assumed that the GCAA passed a reg that made it unlawful for an under-35 year old to fly as PIC. Bidding system being non-existent, I did not know. I assumed that people not getting what they bid was a case of too many flights with not enough pilots wanting to fly to each destination, so being assigned other than what they bid. Never a vacation at the same time as the family is a shock to me, especially because Emirates seems to control the schooling of the kids.

I will continue to monitor this thread and read more posts. But perhaps in the meantime, folks who are currently living in Dubai and flying for Emirates can speak openly in here, rather than cryptically.

Buford 6th Oct 2016 04:50

OP has to be a Costa dweller...
 
The new Aniston ad is like a recruitment ad! 😂😂 Btw, can't wait for all the ankle-biters to try sneaking into First class now...particularly on those US flights where no-one's supposed to go between cabins.

Pequena_Inquieta 6th Oct 2016 09:30


Originally Posted by Buford (Post 9531505)
The new Aniston ad is like a recruitment ad! 😂😂 Btw, can't wait for all the ankle-biters to try sneaking into First class now...particularly on those US flights where no-one's supposed to go between cabins.

I've had that once and I'm pretty sure it was an US flight. The mother was looking for the teenage daughter like crazy and no one could find her. I asked if they had checked first class and the SFS arrogantly replied "of course!". Turned out she WAS in first class for one hour or more eating all the snacks. She sneaked in from forward stairs. I'm sure the FG1s were very busy doing their nails to not notice the extra passenger.

CTWO 6th Oct 2016 12:42


Originally Posted by OurKing (Post 9531482)
This is the first that I've definitively heard the information above. I have been reading the threads here before registering, but because this forum is written with such cryptic wording, it's difficult for an outsider to truly know what is being said. For example, I assumed that the GCAA passed a reg that made it unlawful for an under-35 year old to fly as PIC. Bidding system being non-existent, I did not know. I assumed that people not getting what they bid was a case of too many flights with not enough pilots wanting to fly to each destination, so being assigned other than what they bid. Never a vacation at the same time as the family is a shock to me, especially because Emirates seems to control the schooling of the kids.

I will continue to monitor this thread and read more posts. But perhaps in the meantime, folks who are currently living in Dubai and flying for Emirates can speak openly in here, rather than cryptically.

Be a MAN for once ... come out of the gully-hole and put a face behind your nice posts ...do not hide yourself in social medias...

natops 6th Oct 2016 13:31

Speak openly and get fired.

sluggums 6th Oct 2016 14:15

Quite frankly OurKing, join, or don't join. Nobody cares. To ask what this gig is all about shows how little initiative you've shown doing prior research. Or am I being cryptic...?

notapilot15 7th Oct 2016 13:38


Originally Posted by CTWO (Post 9531961)
Be a MAN for once ...came out of the gully-hole and put a face behind your nice posts ...do not hide yourself in social medias...

This is what bothers me, astroturfing is illegal in most countries but most companies do have people with paid relationships doing the same pretending to be normal social media users.

nolimitholdem 7th Oct 2016 22:15

Just in case some aren't familiar with the term: (source Wikipedia)


Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by a grassroots participant(s).

It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial connection.

The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass, as a play on the word "grassroots." The implication behind the use of the term is that there are no "true" or "natural" grassroots, but rather "fake" or "artificial" support, although some astroturfing operatives defend the practice (see Justification below).
OurKing, more like OurLatestTroll in a long line of 'em. Come on. No one is fooled.

Outlaw - that was brilliant!

The Outlaw 8th Oct 2016 05:58

CRYTIC WORDING OFF

Our King,

I just spoke to my boss. He said that I should grab any chance I got to fly a 601. He was puzzled why anyone would want to leave a 601 job to fly a 380 in this region but hey, night flying and 100 hours per month will get you all that time you need for the ATPL.

Any word from your boss about switching yet?

You know that with a 380 endorsement you can just kick down the door to any flying outfit and tell them them how to run their business...they actually welcome criticism from a 380 guy...its just that extra insight that makes us in demand in this market (but keep that a secret or the 777 guys will want this higher learning as well). Your boss would know this and I'm a little perturbed that he hasn't rolled out the red carpet yet...I'll be sure to debrief him when I get there.

PS... I'm still waiting on your passport, I'm disappointed that I haven't received it yet. Anyhow, do to a recent policy change, I will also require your bank account details, pin number, visa number and CVC code, key to your house and car... small price to pay for glamour and all that great EMIRA....wait the phone is ringing..."hello?.....yes...sure!....I will....yes...B'bye" That was Jennifer...she was asking when you were coming?

CTWO 8th Oct 2016 06:16

OUTLAW for president!!!

The Outlaw 8th Oct 2016 06:17

2 EK guys getting briefed by management until CM rolls in on a motorcycle...

https://youtu.be/F-VnIwvY47c/

puff m'call 14th Oct 2016 06:45

It's simple.

Stay where you are!!

gmezzi 16th Oct 2016 05:43

Hi dear,
can I have your staff number?

Jack330 20th Oct 2016 15:22

Once a serious company, most of the guys that passed the last DEC screenings completely, had been offered a FO position.... Hilarious !! This could've worked 10 years ago and not for sure at 50 yo... Hahahaha

notapilot15 20th Oct 2016 16:19

Outlaw great video. Came across this one courtesy to YouTube auto play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s-MnvKIqb8

The resemblance between Bedrock city and Dubai is shocking, there is even talk about four engine planes.

Plane and simple 20th Oct 2016 19:04

Come here. We have a happiness park courtesy of our ministry of happiness....

See. Everybody is happy🎈🎈🎈🎈

http://m.thenational.ae/uae/environment/happiness-park-opened-in-dubai?

The Outlaw 21st Oct 2016 00:06

notapilot,

That is pretty funny and yes, there are a lot of similarities between Bedrock and "the city of happiness" such as cave men, neanderthal practices, houses made of rock and stone age mentality! All men Bedrock wear the same goatskin suit...sound familiar?

I particularly liked the references to the local women and men of Bedrock doing housework and chores....PFFFFTTT!!! I suppose Kumar and Mandeep hadn't made it to Bedrock at that time.

One think is for sure... Al Redrock is going to get his ass handed to him by Christoph Monzonite...sooner the better!

OurKing 21st Oct 2016 01:04

I have submitted my application. How long does it typically take to be reviewed and subsequently begin the process to interview?

I was at SEATAC this week and saw an Emirates 777 parked. It brought back my time in the UAE over the summer. There is something almost sentimental about talking to UAE Control approaching DXB, and equally so, hearing the friendly "inshallah" from the other aircraft and controllers that makes me feel like I've found what I'm looking for in life ... respect, dignity, folks who are polite to one another.

The Outlaw 21st Oct 2016 01:44

No Prob OurKing ol' boy....I will advise the company head shrinks to look out for you. I'm sure they wont have to go too far.

Have you considered a saliva test for your own self interest? Or is this more a a "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" sort of thing?

Anyway...I'll be making sure you are never left alone in the flight deck...

The Outlaw 21st Oct 2016 01:54

Hey...King'y ol' bean,

I've noticed a blatant disregard for my real offer of changing seats/type/company...did you think I was joking guv'na?

Why go through all that assessment crap when I can walk you into the CPAB office and tell him that you're going to be the new Grand Exalted Executive Poo Bah on the mighty 380 (better than a 777, faster than a rolling "O", able to leap a capital "T" in a single bound...its a bird, its a plane, its Superking"!!

I'm one bad ass connected MF MF....MF....


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