EK Roster satisfaction
 

I'm asking this to B777 people in the top two bid groups for the September roster:
Did you get any of your preferences, that you can confirm was due bidding? (i.e asked for a specific destination and got two)

I think the profit Jagger said it best "I cant get no satisfaction"

https://youtu.be/nrIPxlFzDi0

2nd top bid - B777 FO. Pretty senior. Got the square root of cock all on either request or preferences.

A sensible email is being constructed to highlight the inadequacies and inequalities. Will it achieve anything? Of course not but it'll help me feel just a tad better!!!

Bizarrely enough Habibis, middle bid(yeah I know not top 2 bids) and I got for me at least almost a dream roster :ok: Lots of deadheading, 20 hours.. no turnarounds, 3 preferences I got awarded, not specific flights, 5 day block off as a preference :D:D

Not gloating, but am surprised for sure. :ugh:

SyB :zzz::zzz:

Habibis this is to keep you away from the young new GR2's who will do as I tell them, and stay away from your wealthy married cockpit.

Top bid, senior FO in my group. Had to use up all my 5 requests to secure a string of days off, of which I got three

Didn't get any of my preferences, basically quite the opposite..

Please please email the bid guys then fleet. Every time I talk to them they don't seem to have many other complaints. I know it's because most of us have given up and know it will make no difference but it drives me mad when they say they didn't get many complaints and therefore it must be my incredibly high expectations of getting ANY generic layover preference in the US or EU that's the issue..
Bring back the old system, worked fine if you invested a bit of time to bid.

Second bottom. Every preference for five of the same days off in every combination. Got it! Sweet.

Two day turns, one ULR, two augment plus 12 days off with three days reserve at the start.

halas

ps: This never happens!

My September roster is VERY satisfactory......

You are leaving?

Bottom bid, bid for days off only, block of 6 days, couple of turns all day time and about 70hrs. :eek::hmm::eek: clearly the bidding system works (sarcasm)

70 hours sounds good, Monarch.

The profit Jagger also said "you can't always get what you want...but if you try sometime you find you get what you need"

By the way roster satisfaction is an Oxymoron !

Top Bid... got everything I asked for... next month... not so sure! :-(

:ok::ok::ok::ok:

All the best to ya Wiz.

Just curious. How can you guys keep putting up with all this crap.
Enough is enough. Or it should.

83hrs..got the string of 5 days off I asked for plus 3 of the 4 flights....and then the wake up call came for my next flight

seriously, it got even worse since I left 3 months ago, just accept the fact that it will never get any better, they come up with all those rules to screw you, just move on

Wiz, All the best to you and yours for the future!

Cheers Guys

Wiz

Was a gentleman...

On here
In the sim
On the flight deck and
In the bar.

All the best to you.

Where are you heading, Wiz?

Capt, 2nd top bid, got two VIE layovers that I asked for.
Also the long MNL, which is now a three man crew, finally.
DAC layover, the day trip, which used to be a turnaround.
Have to give credit where credit is due, these are improvements.

They've disregarded the preferences for 777 FO. I've looked at other top bid guys that I know ask for a couple of destinations that's not particularly popular, destinations that you normally would end up with 2-3 per month in top and second top.
They got none.
A simple roster search shows that practically no destination has been given more than once to any FO.

Are FOs allowed to bid?

Fark! Just finished reserve. 105 unfactored hours in 30 days! Never normally do more than 65.
Anyone else in the the same boat?

Will be controlling this months hours more closely :E

halas

105 hours on reserve. Short of crew? But on a serious note...105 hours the way EK operates can simply not be safe, or good for a pilots health.

Oct bid closes on the 7th of Sept,
EK Schedule published on the 8th!!!
Go figure, instead of management extending bidding for atleast a few days longer to give us a chance to improve our life style, they just blatantly do whatever they want...
But again, weren't we recently reminded bidding is not contractual !!!!

Not sure what you are looking at. Bidding closes on the 10th.

Question from an ousider, do A380 crew generally get a better roster than 777 crew?

BC.

I think the swap freeze starts on the 7th.

Cloud bunny,
Is absolutely correct, should read those operational notes more carefully, thanks

Adel....

It's ok... that stuff happens when you're fatigued out at 105 hours month after month.

K

Regarding swap freeze. Does it start on the 07th or effectively earlier as I keep getting stuck on the 'Please wait validating business rules' page?

Will they press the button today?

Apparently, the answer is yes :cool:

did anyone here get more than 4 in a row by bid?

Max 2 days off in row.

It's absolutely horrendous on the 777.

:yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

Passengers have been saying that for years :)