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The Outlaw 23rd Jan 2018 05:33


Originally Posted by Schnowzer (Post 10028474)
Seems we should take he credit, he won a prize for experimenting on EK pilots. Seemed like a competent doctor at the start, who let his ambition and thirst for fame take over his life.

...any vanity

I Claudius 23rd Jan 2018 10:32

Well, he cost me an extra six months, when it came to getting my medical back.

He even had the the gall to tell me over the phone, that there was NO chance that I would ever get my Middle East medical back. I quietly slipped away from his “care” and went about arming myself for the battle, changed doctors and the rest is history. The nome was to be sitting on my medical review board,,, I had him removed!
A couple of years ago, I was congratulated, by a senior AME, for pushing my own case through the board, as it had brought the local authority up to date, with the major ones overseas.
This lead to another pilot getting his medical back, who had tried, six to twelve months before me.
I personally know two of the guys that the nome sent to the US, for “ rehabilitation”.
Both left, one was sent back after it was found that the elevated lipids, were up due the medication, not alcohol. The other was proven clear, by another Clinic.

Then there is the Al Ain connection, with the sleep apnea testing. The BMI bull.

I understand that it was fleet who had him pack his bags, just over two years ago.

After how much damage had been done?

He should be in jail.

SOPS 23rd Jan 2018 23:33


Originally Posted by I Claudius (Post 10028853)
Well, he cost me an extra six months, when it came to getting my medical back.

He even had the the gall to tell me over the phone, that there was NO chance that I would ever get my Middle East medical back. I quietly slipped away from his “care” and went about arming myself for the battle, changed doctors and the rest is history. The nome was to be sitting on my medical review board,,, I had him removed!
A couple of years ago, I was congratulated, by a senior AME, for pushing my own case through the board, as it had brought the local authority up to date, with the major ones overseas.
This lead to another pilot getting his medical back, who had tried, six to twelve months before me.
I personally know two of the guys that the nome sent to the US, for “ rehabilitation”.
Both left, one was sent back after it was found that the elevated lipids, were up due the medication, not alcohol. The other was proven clear, by another Clinic.

Then there is the Al Ain connection, with the sleep apnea testing. The BMI bull.

I understand that it was fleet who had him pack his bags, just over two years ago.

After how much damage had been done?

He should be in jail.

Sent you a PM

Odins Raven 24th Jan 2018 07:51


Originally Posted by Schnowzer (Post 10028474)
Seems we should take he credit, he won a prize for experimenting on EK pilots. Seemed like a competent doctor at the start, who let his ambition and thirst for fame take over his life.

The thing is, that pretty much sums up Dubai in one sentence. It’s the place where a ‘nobody’ can go to, spout some BS and come home a lot richer having ruined other people’s lives. He’s only one of many.

MacSheikh 24th Jan 2018 20:32


Age 50 plus, BMI 30 plus, neck size 43 cm plus = automatic sleep apnea testing
Is this new? I've ticked the boxes for several years and not had to do the test.

I Claudius 24th Jan 2018 22:06


Originally Posted by MacSheikh (Post 10030587)
Is this new? I've ticked the boxes for several years and not had to do the test.

No. See a senior AME or put a complaint in.
It looks like the racket continues!

Dan_Brown 24th Jan 2018 22:25

I snore real loud so I'm told. However when I sleep in a chair i.e., sitting up I very seldom snore.

If you nod off on the flight deck and snore, it should keep your colleague awake. In these times of extreme fatigue due to over work, this has to be safety enhancing surely.

I've woken up years ago in the cockpit and found my two colloques sound asleep. Now if there had been a real loud snorer among the 3 of us, this wouldn't have happened. :}

Exit Strategy 24th Jan 2018 23:42

If you snore, can you just admit to it and go out medically with loss of licence?

Neektu 25th Jan 2018 10:06


Originally Posted by Exit Strategy (Post 10030736)
If you snore, can you just admit to it and go out medically with loss of licence?

That’s the catch: they don’t revoke your license on account of snoring. Snoring is not the problem, but the durantion of the apneas. They will try to fix it with the Cpap and that means ground duties till the apnea goes below the mild range.


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