It was 92 hours, not 90.

I was at a training meeting the day it happened, and no-one had been previously informed.

On that day, someone asked TCAS if it would revert to 78 hours when the financial crisis was over, and his remark was that he wasn't going to make promises he couldn't keep- I don't think the word "temporary" was attached to any communication regarding the threshold.

I saw TCAS standing on the roundabout by the laundry end of EGHQ Sunday morning, musing something over. Heaven knows what he has in store now!

Think he was looking for his marbles.

Gone but still kickin'
 

He just reported a pilot to fleet who changed out of uniform during a deadheading flight he was on. Still sticking it to the pilots. What a wonderful person he is.

For, the name of whoever, can't the guy let go? He has made his millions on the back of everyone's else's sweat, why is he not in in Southern France enjoying it?

Because he can't. It's not about money with people in these positions. It's about power, influence and control.

when he leaves he is just a short little man waiting to die, he has nothing else to do

Perfect description.

What a f... muppet

Blast from the past.
 

I believe you are referring to this letter. There is no mention whatsoever of anything being "temporary".

New joiners beware, this is what passes for "contract negotiation" at EK...seven years on, the "troubled times" continue...

Every single day I thank dog there are options for widebody pilots outside of EK. Sheer thievery.

http://s32.postimg.org/ja1rjgez9/Inf...y_Letter_1.jpg

http://s32.postimg.org/ycsqpne1h/Inf...y_Letter_2.jpg

"......difficult decisions......" ??????



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That was funny.

J

And let's not lose sight of the fact that those 'other major airlines' that were experiencing 'major difficulties' are all still here and doing very nicely too, and that they managed to survive without having to rape their staff's T&C's in the process. Go figure?!

Interesting to read that letter.
More work, less money must have caused grinding of the teeth when it started.
The good old days are over it seems.

Making Maths ...
 

So basically,

After the threshold moved ....

That was a 30 % cut for a 92 hours roster that lasted for 7 years so far... Just multiply...

Any payrise in between was far below inflation...

Then, even a 50 % increase today would not catch up with what it has been taken away, at least for the next 7 years...

Not to mention the inflation and the VAT coming up for the next ccming years...

In the meantime, broken families and unrecoverable health issues...

How much is enough this days ...??

And yet 60% of the pilot group still joined after this happened.

... and 40% stayed after it happened.


We all have our reasons for being here. Lets not fight with eachother.

J

Don't forget though that those figures have changed since. Productivity is now triggered 4 hours less than in the letter. An improvement, but not where it used to be. I personally would not be too surprised if there are some similar changes on the way and possible improvements in credit pay. I guess we'll know in a month or so from now.

In that letter TCAS makes reference to the increase in frequency of ULR and LR flights that EMIRATES was undertaking. That frequency continues to increase yet we are still crewed and rostered as if we are a low cost carrier operating turnaround flights.

Ten crews per airframe is required if our long term health is not to suffer and if the attrition rate for the more experienced pilots is to reduce.

It is like history:

before Feb 8 th 2009 and after
The date when the ship started to hit the ice.

The response from management on or about the 10th of May will tell us what they they think of the situation at present.

If they don't address these following issues, then its same same...

1.Pay-A substantial increase, no fiddling with other stuff, basic pay.

2.Leave-A firm commitment to give everyone their leave, and that in their leave bank.

3.Rostering-Let the system work, let us bid for exactly what we want to bid for and what we don't want. Give us the ability to get days off blocks in all bid groups, not just the top two bid groups. Publish all the rules that we don't know about, we work for the same organisation!!

4.Reserve-Blocks of 5 to 7 days off and the ability to bid for these prior to the reserve month. Being drip fed 1 day off at a time is no life!

5.Credit for all simulator and ground duties.

6.Stop high hours its affecting all our health, and give a firm commitment to lowering the monthly target flying hours. Its no life flying constant 95 hour months, and little time to recover, given the EK route network.

7. Stop the stupid practice of not crediting all hours when on a ULR flight, no one else does it.

Feel free to add to the list.. No rants just what EK management need to do to recruit more pilots and stop the huge outflow of pilots currently.

SyB :zzz::zzz: