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Old 11th Apr 2016, 19:38
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Latest EK Senior mngmt outreach...

So now the COO reaches out to everyone in a desperate attempt to finally get a handle on his operation and is begging for his minions to talk to him as his middle management obviously has failed miserably to give him a realistic picture of his responsibility.

Few observations:

- He is obviously unqualified to be in his job (We already knew this)
- Feedback from 20 cabin crew and 20 pilots initiated enough panic in him to reach out and solicit more feedback
- He is absolutely clueless as to what is going on and how to fix it. Any other corporation in the world would form an exploration committee and hire an outside consultancy. But since "we" can't do that (i.e. admit incompetency) we just ask our own people for advice...

Funnily enough the third point is the exact same thing CPB and CPA and SVPF have done in the past. The level of incompetence of our senior Flight Ops & Service Delivery Management is mind boggling.

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Old 11th Apr 2016, 19:49
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Unfortunately all trust has gone, so even if his intentions are well meaning, which I seriously doubt, no one is inclined to believe that any of it is for the benefit of the shop floor minions.
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He has done too many negative things to our flying community. Most people I talk to hate his guts.

Its time for him to realize this, and be man enough to move away from his position.
When I see an email from him I dont take it serious, a lotta blah blah. Its too late, move away and let a competent person clean up the mess.

( I know... Not gonna happen)
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AAR does not need any more input, he knows what is wrong and knows how to fix it.
All it requires is for him and anyone above him, to take the required action.
Sadly being of an age where the Easter Bunny and Fairies at the bottom of the garden are no longer a part of my life, the chances of anything happening to fix this mess are between slim and FA!
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Everything seems to indicate pressure from above and he can't blame it on anyone below. AS did not do anything positive for the pilot group but he did send everything up to AAR so as not to be the fall guy.
Response to this email "should" give a clear indication on how pilots feel towards him.
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And where did it say in the email anything to improve our lot, etc.? He just wants to hear our input on how to improve and/or make the OPERATION more efficient. Nothing to do with us.
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Ruserious, it is a placebo to make those above and those below think he cares or wants input.
Not to mention a separate email address so that the opinions don't clutter up his personal inbox. Grade 5 secretary will be allocated inbox management duties.
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Maybe we could ask that he replay any wash up over the past ten years or so. Didn't listen then, won't listen now.
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Exactly What Don said.
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Panther, I am with you buddy.

The email concludes with what we can do to improve his "lot" and no consideration about pilot concerns or otherwise from those that feed him, shameful. He is married into "THE" family, the family do a pretty good job for Dubai, but being married into a position certainly doesn't make you competent in his role. He never was, has never learnt and no doubt wil never be a respected leader of this once amazing airline, so sad.

I would never consider lowering myself to ever write an email to him about anything.

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Someone seems to be desperate!?

Never listened to us during the million wash up's. Why is the false shift now happening?
Could be the media attention or the foreign agencies asking questions?
Nothing will/can change as there are not enough crew available.
The situation will get worse day by day! The ship is sinking (remember the CRM video?)
A brand close to destruction.
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Never saw a business organization whose leaders lost the trust of their employees on such a level that even if they sincerely want to change something they don't have the support of the people who desperately need change. Ridiculous paradox.

The only cure is change of the whole top and middle management. In one move.
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True but they do not sincerely want to change something.

AAR is part of the problem, he must be exchanged with all the others immediately.
Same as TCAS/ STC .. they are the problem.
Just wait and see, it will eventually happen!
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QR is hiring.
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Just wait and see, it will eventually happen!
It will, ofc. If there is a grain of common sense left there. After all, business is for making money and taking care of all aspects of it, not for employing wasta and incompetent managers from all over the world whose bad judgement and management kill their customers and crew.
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The only cure is change of the whole top and middle management. In one move.
I am sure they are prepared for that event, hence 8 x Daily A380s.
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The man is widely despised and is never to be trusted.
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I am sure they are prepared for that event, hence 8 x Daily A380s.
There is another solution. It's even more effective than replacing all the managers but I doubt they ever gonna do it. Forming a good, honest and working ethical department (if possible, outside UAE and formed out of foreigners known for having integrity) for resolving all labour disputes and concerns, with ultimate power of final decision in these matters. This would improve sick organizational culture in a short period of time.


Edit: and while we are at senior EK management, someone searched my blog with these key words today:

"sir tim clark pure genious of emirates".

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Old 13th Apr 2016, 19:25
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Originally Posted by Nikita81
There is another solution. It's even more effective than replacing all the managers but I doubt they ever gonna do it. Forming a good, honest and working ethical department (if possible, outside UAE and formed out of foreigners known for having integrity) for resolving all labour disputes and concerns, with ultimate power of final decision in these matters. This would improve sick organizational culture in a short period of time.


Edit: and while we are at senior EK management, someone searched my blog with these key words today:

"sir tim clark pure genious of emirates".
The way genius is spelled sure indicates it was one of the other geniuses in the bouncy castle that made that search.
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