DEC REMOVED FROM EK PORTAL
 

What happened?

RTC...
 

Road to Command......my guess

When I saw the first part of the thread title and it said "DEC removed", I assumed a new joiner in the left seat had forgotten his hat or been photographed holding a cup of coffee whilst in uniform...

Odins,

That was the un-written policy of the former AS(s) (or was it (st)AS(i) ) who's Napoleonic syndrome was only outdone by his contempt for his own kind.

As far as I'm concerned drink coffee out of your hat.

I 2nd that. Nighttime or early morning, I do not fly without coffee, and not that horrible stuff they serve on the plane.

Get scolded? Just use your 'emirates' tie-matching mug you were issued by the company.

Somebody higher up realised it cost too much money to ship DEC candidates on business class tickets to Dubai, pay for hotel, simulator and medical, fail them, then send them back.
Again and again and again. A complete waste of time and money for all involved.
Why they have allowed this charade to go on for so long is beyond me.

Removed because they got as many as they planned on. It was never a big number. Don't worry children the sky is still falling.

Got the quota. Regardless of how many applications they did or did not get. The hand full of 330 DECs will be on the 380 in a year. 777 DECs will enjoy there bidding position !

Fatbus there is no bidding position! For preference bids you have the same chance of getting the flight as anyone else in the bid group. The only place these guys will loses out is the single requests only in top two months and on staff travel. Anyway regardless 330 going = 777 guys will be getting curry more often for breakfast....

Was being sarcastic WRT to the DEC 777 bidding. Even in top bid month they will be forever( almost) at the bottom of their group.

Some or most of DEC assessments have been suspended.

In the HQ HR "service" place yesterday the group world site still showed DECs being sought on the careers page.

Also FOs with 10-20t, I think it was, background.

Not sure what you guys are on about in this thread, but the DEC recruiting page is still up as per March 13th:

Requirements for the Position of Direct Entry Captain

Sorry, but its not there anymore. If you go to the pilots section in the emirates group careers website it just have the vacancy for FO. Why is it not consistent across the website is a good question though.

Most probably the link on the vacancy page has been removed but the page still excists when you enter the direct adres.

dec
 

The position is closed, I asked recruitment with a mail and they said that, unfortunately, the offer is no longer there for the moment but it will open again in the forseeable future.
Voices are saying that for every DEC they take, 3 FO's leave EK.
Not completely true because nobody leaves EK without another good job.
Truth is that they have no pilots and Ek is facing massive resignations form both Cpt and FO.
Soon they will have not enough pilots to face the expansion...
As said before they need people (that will stay in the right seat for 7 or more years) to replace the upgrading FO's...
We'll see what happens..

Contrare
 

Well I think the massive shortage is something that's self created. With such poor working conditions nobody will think of coming over , but that being said there are plenty of pilots from India, Pakistan and other such countries that would like to join the ranks at EK.

P.S there was a issue faced a few years ago about fake pilots in the same region

I wouldn't be to sure about the Indian and Pakistani pilots

I flew recently with a American (of Indian decent) FO who implied that the mindset of those guys wouldn't allow for the perceived failure in relation to their peers back home.....ie, washout in training and need to return, that somehow they would be considered "tainted goods"

I hope I've explained in properly.....I was half asleep when we were talking. ;)

he was a very switched on operator, BTW

They may be using an agency.
https://www.flightdeckconsulting.com...ntry-captains/
:mad::mad::mad:

They're not recruiters. They host the link to Emirates career website which says the position is no longer available.

Relax...

Just go to http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/english/ and it's still there. Just met a Ryanair captain today who's going to attend a screening next month.

Keep in mind things are always changing at EK. If they continue to struggle getting first officer applications they would need to keep the DEC going . If there is a pilot shortage the middle east would feel it the most . No longer as lucrative as it once was . But good luck to all Those that come, please do your homework and be honest with families if you have one. I'm leaving because Dubai and EK take a life out of you.

Leaving Emirates will be the best thing you can do your family and your health.
Don't delay, leave today!

yes, I agree, I felt so good when I resigned, but still 2 months left

I have to agree. 12 months away and my life is normal.Well except that I have two dogs who somehow know the time now. expecting a walk at 4 30 pm. If I'm late, they get frantic. How the hell they tell the time is beyond me.

While the link is still on the front page there is only one vacancy which is for First Officers. They must have forgotten to take the link down.

This is the email that the DEC candidates due for an interview have received a couple of weeks ago:

"It is with regret we are required to advise you that Emirates has suspended vacancies for Direct Entry Captains for the foreseeable future.
With respect to your scheduled assessment, there are two options:
1. If you wish to continue with the assessment for consideration as a First Officer only, please attend as per your scheduled arrangements.
2. You may elect to withdraw your candidacy for DEC. This in no way jeopardizes future consideration for any assessment with Emirates.
Please advise as soon as possible of your preferred option. Please send your response to [email protected] you for your continued interest in Emirates. We look forward to hearing from you. Regards Emirates Pilot Recruitment"

https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...RATES-3&?cmpid

From Flightglobal email this morning.

No mention of DEC

WOW!Its back folks but this time it's free for all!777 DEC 320/737 !

It will be interesting to see how they match up those requirements, unless they're willing for the wide body and long haul stuff to be WAY out of date i.e. a long time before they got their commands in smaller aircraft.

Can't see how they'll get anyone at all.

AAR stated in that 'meeting' that manning levels are correct and pilots are going to be flying max hours - period?

So where are the commanders with long haul experience who will join knowing that AND be prepared to live in the middle east...?

The only guys I could see applying would be those FROM the middle east and they all already fly in the ME3.

I refuse to believe anyone in top management is unaware of the current problems. Maybe they just like a joke or two...

Applied for DEC but haven't received the usual email saying that the application was received annyhow on thw website says application submitted.... Anyone else with the same issue ?

There are lots of guys in Ryanair who are only current on B737 but historically have wide body experience

Good luck getting narrow body Captains, they can earn more in China on a month on/month off roster.

I thought they were only recruiting 15 DECs on 777?

I thought AAR said there are enough pilots at EK in that meeting just recently?

I applied in the past, application still there, never got an email, TT 14000 hrs, wb command 6000 hrs. Anyone knows what do they want?

Talent, skill and good looks!

... and a desire to die younger than is necessary.