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Guys just wandering why there is so many unhappy ek pilots in this forum. Middle east forum is full of you guys talking bad about your company. Seriously if you dont like the company why dont you just leave rather than talking bad about it.

Just wandering :rolleyes:

Since when are people not leaving?

Just wandering.

agree with you but i meant to the people who are still in the company enjoying the benefits yet complaining for each and everything (roster, leave, provident fund n etc).

@seaman why if someone support the company must be from the management or a troll? yes im not from ek but just wandering why u guys complaints so much yet still in the company

Why the **** should WE be the ones to leave, we're not the ones screwing up the company. People complain here hoping it'll force the cretins out into the light; those cretins who are driving this place to low position on the scale of places to work. As a management troll I'm guessing you'd be one of those cretins.

Actually I think it is a fair question but a couple of minutes reading this forum will reveal a multitude of answers without having to ask again.

I get it. Get some office person, who is wandering to Costa, to post drivel.

We already have another poster saying...if you don't like the jewel in the Crown airline leave.....seems that the trolls are getting worse.

For the rest of you, have a great Christmas. I'm doing my first one at home for 15 years, and it's very nice.

Fly safe guys, don't let them run you into the ground. Your health and life is not worth it.

To all of you, have a great New Year. :ok:

FlyingPilot...Some of us would leave if we could get more than 2 days off to find another job!

actually I am leaving, you can take my spot and then complain here

@fack5 do u think by posting all your craps in here will make any different to them. I think they will be laughing by reading all your post and say "this jokers got no other better work".

@SOPS have a merry christmas and a happy new year

@ClassCbird if you guys really want to leave. MC is always an option if you dont get the off. When there is a will, there is a way

@GoreTex maybe soon i will but i will not complaint in pprune about the company.

Flying pilot, I did leave, I grew tired of the continual lies, the constant denigration of flight crew and borderline sociopathic behaviour of fleet, flight ops and commercial management, all washed down with a dose of 20/20 hindsight and punitive mindset, which is used to justify incompetence and idiotic knee-jerk policy decisions taken by individuals whom in the real world wouldn't be put in charge of a lemonade stand.
All that coupled with having to be constantly aware that any issue no matter how trivial or minor can escalate and cause life changing events with respect to your career, your family and potentially your health.
Other than that, it's all sweetness and light, so nothing to complain about habibi.

@falconeasydriver i guess u made a good choice. I totally agree with everything you said. my question was, no company in this world are perfect. Everyone has their own problem but why only EK pilots seems to react like they are working with the worst company in the world.

Flyingpilot, the point of this is not that crew want EK to be perfect, that's unrealistic, but it's the little things that make a huge difference and those little things along with some quite big things are constantly being eroded, removed or worse in the never ending quest by a select few to feather their own nests. Along the path of this quest people who are invested at EK with respect to not just a job, but with their families and their immediate future feel betrayed. These employees feel marginalised and devalued as they have been lied too so often that the only way many of them have any recourse is to put accurate and pertinent information out there via various means to warn the next generation of victims of the fate that potentially awaits them.
EK pilots as a group are not a miserable negative bunch, their attitude is merely reflective of the quality of management they have to endure.
If you are unable to identify this common thread amongst all the accurate info posted on here, then you are either a fool or a management troll, either way EK are doing their best to alienate their greatest asset, their staff.

Hmmm the quickest way to get fired thanks to the toxic management mindset at EK and its inability to accept critical feedback due to cultural and competence issues.

@aiza i think they only dare to talk using anonymous nicknames rather than talk to the necessary people straight.

@falconeasydriver maybe i'm a fool, but these forum are not even making any impact for the "NEXT GEN". If im not mistaken, EK is having interview twice a week and average of 20 people during one session. So who is the fool here, the "NEXT GEN" or the people whining like a girl in this pprune. (no offense guys)

Then join and enjoy Flyingpilot, you sound like the perfect candidate.
Based on your responses I'm guessing you are likely not from a first world country, in which case EK probably seems like heaven, many however currently at EK are from first world countries and they have higher expectations of the people they work for.
Goodluck.

Aida, what you are referring to is commonly known as a union and they are illegal here. Which is one reason the management remain completely unresponsive to helpful suggestions. They know there is nothing we can do except leave so why try to change things?

I see, they just enjoy the "benefits" and do not work hard for them...... :E

@falconeasydriver you are right, maybe i'm not from first world country but most of the new recruits for EK are from first world countries. not sure if they change themselves to 2nd/3rd world country people or the company improved to 1st world.

@natops i dont want to waste my time coz as @falconeasydriver said, maybe EK prefer 1st world country guys who only good at complaining in the virtual world rather than real one and still stay with the same company

Do you really believe that would solve they issues? According to my experience I doubt this. But like a wise man said "I have a dream......"

"Just leave rather than talking bad about it".....yes we'll all go 'wandering' off to make room for jerks like you.

Just wandering here, how does flyingpilot know where most of the new recruits come from? :confused: That is, unless he sees them from his seat in Costa.

and I "wander" where flyingpilot89 learned english? :p

@Aiza
No I don't remember, I left EK 2012 and Dubai 2013. But I do remember the treatment of workers which started fighting for their rights. And the same thing would happen with pilots. Termination of employment, Visa cancelation within hours, Bank accounts and Creditcards frozen within a minute and security cheques bouncing. Worst case would be that the family is still in DXB

Edit: I had the "dubious honor" to bring a couple of those people back to their home country.

Hey flyingpilot89 and aiza:

If you can ask why people who complain about EK don't leave, I guess we can ask why people like you who think it's great don't join, and show how it's done? Lead by example? Hurry up and get hired and start a union drive!

Oh that's right...you couldn't qualify or pass the selection. So really, your comments are just silly envy of what you can't have.

Or, more likely just a simple troll whiling away the hours at Costa.

You'll have to try harder than that though. The "don't like it - leave" meme is coming true a little too often these days hahahah!

Definitely a 4. Nothing more, nothing less. :E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg0fmaCSDPg

@aiza well said. these people are just good in talking as anonymous

@tangouniform i knew because few of my friend who went and join there told me this.

@goretex @qwerti owh sorry guys, english is not my 1st language so i do make some mistakes while typing.(nobody is perfect) Apologies for the error, it suppose to be "wondering" or "wonder" rather than the one you guys trolling here.

@nolimitholdem sorry man, EK is not the type of company i want. Not because of the company but the bad vibes the pilots are having. you guys must have your own brain to think how to get rid of this problems rather than asking us to come and lead u.

Sorry to say but this is BS.

@exdubai u might find it as BS but sorry to say it is the fact. They are too scared that they might get the "warning letter" or worse case is get sacked if they voice out with their real identity.

And your name is?

For someone that claims to have no interest in EK, flying pilot seems to have an unhealthy interest in EK.

For someone who claims to be retired......

It's obvious Flyingpilot is off his meds so why even entertain is "management" backed posts?

Aiza...Thank goodness you aren't interested! One less troll to worry about having to sit next to for hours at a time.

That was your best and most intelligent post yet! You are 100% correct! I'm on the Boeing, so you wouldn't be sitting next to a bus driver. Now go along and play with the other children.

Fellas you are arguing with Air Arabia MPLs! Save your breath.

@flying, even if you were interested, I wouldn't bother applying, EK requires level 4 Englsh proficiency.

@moseisley first get your sentence right bro. Guess your english is worse than mine. Hahahaha

@aiza they are not professional pilots. They are EK PILOTS. Who are only good at whining and complaining. I feel bad for them. Haha

@ratherbeskiing my name is Lee.You mind saying you're actual name and post in EK? (If u dare) :O

@sops I'm just interested to know why u guys whining so much like a girl who is having her pms( no offense to gals). All the other pilots in Middle East are not as bad as u guys. Except one which I'm not sure coz it's prohibited.

Ahhhh, and in conclusion,