EK flight Ops Who is in Charge?
 

So the time has come and gone for the DSVP to leave. It has been announced that he has a new job but he still doesn't seem to have disappeared.

As I understood it there were 2 possible replacements and promoting his deputy would have made the most sense and would IMHO be a sound appointment. A man of sharp intellect that is prepared to show leadership rather than just manage his own career....I hope.

Of course there would be a few snags for those further up the greasy pole as they might actually get told what was happening at the coal face with the filter removed. But as they say knowledge is power and were I in senior management I would want to be given sound information, even if it was uncomfortable, rather than keep getting shoved into square corners because the minions won't raise their heads above the parapet to point out the issues.

If they don't make the change what does that say about senior management's perception of either the candidates' capabilities or their desire to be told the truth rather than drink the political cool aid? Anyway you cut it, from the outside it appears to show indecisiveness and weaknesses coupled to poor succession management. All utterly avoidable.

Same as always...AAR

They just need a new sock puppet to rubber stamp directives and burn at the stake for the eventual train wreck. TCAS just ducked out of the way for the next pension padding, 8th floor sitting, flight bag skimming, wine crate furniture selling, annex 2 FTL ing, vacation credit stealing, overtime swiping, FTL fiddling, fatigue inducing sell out to take a bullet. Did I miss something?


Maybe raise Ed from the dead!

Really, who cares

Absolutely, and i sustain costneutrals point without any sarcasm, cynicism, agenda or anything else.

Honestly, no one cares anymore.

Press your monthly 2 because there is the same effect further up -> no one cares

ekwhistleblower

Without wishing to appear facetious, perhaps they're applying the same principle to this position as they do for new pursers. 6 months on the job 'training' without the new pay but all of the responsibility. That's six months DSVP salary that can be saved, not, I'd imagine, an insignificant amount. As for the 'contestants' in the race, JA would be the sensible choice. HAH is a figure head smoothing over the locals talking politics while drinking copious amounts of coffee in the Majlis. His current role in training has been invisible and jumping 2 grades, whilst acceptable within the HR policy, would be an unlikely move. JA can get to grips with the mess he's inherited and with 5 years or so from retirement, DSVP would work well for him. HAH can bide his time, follow closely with JA then perhaps take over himself for the last 4-5 years, assisting with the Emiratisation policy!

As already alluded to on another thread, I agree with you. It's nothing short of disgraceful. I wonder if the same will the same occur when STC retires?

Harry

I really don't think JA will make any difference if he gets the job. The only difference is TCJA does not rhyme as well.

Don,

I reckon ATC covers it.

;)

f.

Like ya thinking fliion.

You guys are very strange.

Why would you make up an abusive name for somebody that has so far not does not have the job nor has proved to be an arse yet? And that you want to help you in the future?

Do you not think, little Al might have had a quick look on here all those years ago when he joined and saw you "witty" people calling him TCAS and thinking to him self.. How nice ...I might not help these guys too much after all!

Once they prove themselves to be an arse then make up all the names you want.

M

Modesh - chill brother, light hearted venting

If makes you feel better...and he gets the job and sorts it out in six months, we rename him:
JAR-OPS

..reorganizing previous shambles.

Too much ill1will has been created that regardless of person in question - it's got too poisonous.

The guy who gets the upper floors to put through a 20%ish pay raise might have a chance.

Don't hold your breath.

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Ta Fliion chilled now.

I don't disagree with your comments, just saying it can't have helped our position.

Would you go out of your way to help somebody that was calling you a C?? Light hearted or not.

Actually JAR-OPS is quite good.

Plus its not at all abusive. Lets hope he lives up to it, if he gets the job.

M

Preferred to be called one than treated like one

Oh no. EK policy is decided from comments on pprune. We are in deeper sh@te than we thought.

ATC has been in charge of the leave policy since the horse left hasn't he? He wrote the letter congratulating himself and team on giving 90% of the pilots 30days leave right? He forgot to mention how much of the 90% received forced leave. If you write to him about the 42days he replies they only need to give you 30.

I am thinking JAR-OPS will require some Blues Brothers type divine intervention.

didn't we use to call him TOGA?

tz

I thought things under the Talking Horse couldn't get any worse. :(

halas

If TOGA (That Other Guy .......) gets the job then I wish him the best - he's a good man - but I wouldn't actually wish the position on a gent like TOGA because of what it means to hold a position like that in this company.

Modesh, were you here when TCAS showed up? If he wanted a chummy loving relationship with the pilots then he did himself no favours from Day One when he put his name to Father of Factoring thereby establishing his position with a shabby dodgy policy that, if I recall correctly, lasted exactly the six month effective duration of the FCI and then vanished without a trace. The chicken came before the egg.

Sadly I was here when he turned up.

And wee A was being called TCAS before he set foot in the office....

It can't of helped.

M

I think it was "That Orange Guy...."

Modesh jeeezzzz...your english :eek
What did you edit your message for?

tz

TCAS is from his BA days. Not made up here. It's not our fault he lived up to his reputation.

JA may be a gentleman, but he has been here a few years and has been ineffective. The puppeteers are still the same, so can't see how he would improve.

DSVP Flight Ops is a AOC postholder position within EK and changes to any postholder position necessitates a revision to the Part A manual. Until we see a FCN informing us of his replacement, then TCAS unequivocally remains the DSVP Flight Ops.

Donny....Not true. It comes from TCK. They just replaced the K with AS.

However the rest of your post is spot on.

The Z...apologies.

M

The Don is correct.

Modesh, you are speaking from your Panal Asage, the name comes from his BA days where he was universally loathed, he even managed to upset a good portion of the CX 747 population as well when he acted in a less than honourable fashion in respect of some members of a select group of 49, I'll let others elaborate if they choose as I know several here that have first hand experience of his previous post.
I personally wouldnt cross the street to pee on him if his hair caught alight, but I would bring marshmallows.

MM you are correct: the TCAS soubriquet came from BA.

OK, I'll go with it coming from his BA days. Where did TCK come from then?

Gentlemen,

You are correct.

Strange though, that TC(K) was replaced by somebody already called TC and from a different airline. Coincidence?

Actually maybe not, as it seems CK was at BA before EK...so maybe the TC is a BA thing?

Lets hope the new guy isn't already a TC or from BA!!!

Apologies all round.

M

I see that latest FCI, issued today, was signed off by AS?? I thought yesterday was his last day in the job.

Maybe his new nickname should be "floater", he just can't be flushed away?

He was appointed principal to a non existing academy. He can obviously hold two posts when one of them holds no responsibilities besides collecting a pay check.

All hail the profits!

Note my earlier post. TCAS is still DSVP Flight Ops until we are informed otherwise by FCN.

Well... There you have it...
New appointments have been announced...
Any thoughts??:confused:

The guy most responsible of severely pushing the envelope in flight safety (Reduced rest hours, increased flying hours, shorter ULR layovers to name a few) is now in charge of everything.

What can go wrong? :D:ugh:

.... and that would be who? HAH?

My guess would be AAR.

SVP Safety promoted to DSVP flight ops. VP-Flight training has been given a newly created position SVP technical or some such. Effective Jan 1st

Political appointment! AAR has appointed someone that will carry out his every wish. JA not appointed due being 'too soft' toward flight crew. Don't ask for further explanation as i cannot give but that's the bare truth.

The company missed the best opportunity to bring us onside by recruiting JA but chose not to. Make of that what you will.

Didn't see that one coming. Everyone else must have turned it down...

HD will be equally ineffective as AS.

Disappointing, but not surprising.

HD in my dealings with him was a thoroughly nice fella, in point of fact on a couple of flights he's been on to the Emerald Isle that I skippered he made the effort to say hello and have a chat on arrival.
He is in my opinion a vastly different animal to TCAS, how effective he is in terms of dealing with the issues you guys now face? Perhaps someone from Aer Fungus might be able to enlighten? Wee Willy came from a similar background, so perhaps a harbinger of things to come?

Biff,
You are correct, in that, the position was turned down by others. Probably not a more ineffectual post holder position in the company. Notice there was not a "National" promoted to the position. HD seems to be nice chap and has seemed to do what he can in safety, but don't see this as being a major change for the front line.