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Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 09:33

Pay Review is out...!
 
Standby for incoming...!

:yuk:

helen-damnation 25th May 2015 09:35

This could be interesting…… :ouch:

Tango77 25th May 2015 09:37

Pay Review is out...!
 
Methinks very out of touch with employees feelings! An initial baby step really!!!!

Fred Garvin M.P. 25th May 2015 09:38

Same ole shaft. 3% step. Reduction of productivity threshold by 4 hours.

Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 09:39


Originally Posted by Fred Garvin M.P. (Post 8988736)
Same ole shaft. 3% step. Reduction of productivity threshold by 4 hours.

So no pay rise at all, and little more overtime.

Oh, and maybe an increase on the trainer rates ;)

Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 09:41

If the server for the Middle East forum manages to stay online this afternoon without melting down, I take my hats off to the tech guys :E

Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 09:41


Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat (Post 8988743)
If the server for the Middle East forum manages to stay online this afternoon without melting down, I take my hats off to the tech guys :E

But then I'll probably get reported to the uniform police :(

CaptainChipotle 25th May 2015 09:42

And our fearless leaders took a month to come up with this wonderful gem.

That's a zero increase for an FO that's been here 4yrs (right?). I know a lot of guys that are waiting on the dugong to get the time and have been fo's for 7-8yrs.

Thanks for the reduction by a whopping 4hrs. Whew.

All I can say is "CAPTAIN!!! ICEBURG AHEAD!!"

Tango77 25th May 2015 09:43

Pay Review is out...!
 
So out of touch these guys!!!!

johntrav69 25th May 2015 09:56

??????????

johntrav69 25th May 2015 09:56

I was lost for words!

Cloud Bunny 25th May 2015 09:58

I'm actually insulted. I always take these things with a bit of a pinch of salt - but this year there is no justification for that kind of kick in the balls.
How dare he thank us and expect our continued support and hard work for the remainder of this year?! What a damn cheek - I'm going to stop writing as I'm likely to say something that will get me wound up in jail however I hope he/they get everything they deserve...and more.

Empire 25th May 2015 09:58

Rarely post here, but this is beyond anything i ever expected.

"I saw that"

- Karma

Shaky Hands 25th May 2015 10:05

What an insult, they clearly don't have a clue. That pittance of an increase doesn't even cover the increase in my groceries shopping bill which seems to have increased about 25% in the last few years. Recruitment was already struggling now they will have an even bigger problem with retention.
This ship had already lost an engine with nobody on the rudder pedals now its in a deep stall. They are going to learn the Gulf Air way!
I never expected much but had held some hope, like most for an improvement.
My exit strategy just got a lot sooner. Total Arrogance

LOOP2STAND1 25th May 2015 10:09

What a kick in the nuts!

haveago 25th May 2015 10:11

I have run out of Vaseline!!!

LongRangeNav 25th May 2015 10:19

I've never been so disgusted, truly never thought our glorious leaders could stoop so low! Time to treat them with the same respect they give us. :mad:

Dropp the Pilot 25th May 2015 10:19

I just got off the phone with my financial advisor. He's absolutely gobsmacked with the company largesse and says that if we take the 290 dirham raise I got last year and factor in the marvelous 0 dirham raise I receive this year (backdated) it's possible that I can afford a Costa coffee each time I go to work.

What a thrill!

An Alan's personal thanks, too! I am humbled.

Rim-job 25th May 2015 10:22

Unbelievable!!!! To say I'm extremely disappointed would be putting it mildly.

This years pay review is a complete disgrace!! The cost of living is growing but upwards of 10% a year and we get a measly 3% step with no pay rise. Wow. I'm speechless!!

They are in complete denial regarding the situation here and how bad it is getting. :ugh:

Guys are leaving... it's just a matter of time for me. This will only accelerate it for others on the bubble.

In the mean time... I guess I'll just press 2 if I have even an inkling of a sniffle. Going the extra mile is a thing of the past.

tinfish 25th May 2015 10:23

It's Simple.
 
They are happy with the staffing levels and the recruitment prospects. NOT AS MANY PILOTS ARE LEAVING as we have been led to believe on this forum.....SIMPLE!!
And we went through the SAME THING last year!
The fact that many captains have had no leave assigned for 13 months or more would suggest otherwise, very strange.

yardman 25th May 2015 10:24

I'm speechless :ugh:

johntrav69 25th May 2015 10:26

Its not the pilots who are leaving but the numbers that are planning to leave they should be worrying about. Not many skippers I know are not seriously looking at other places.

Macrohard 25th May 2015 10:27

O/T threshold reduction will assist with swaps, NOT!

alwayzinit 25th May 2015 10:27

TCAS isn't bothered one little bit, he retires this Nov with a prov fund in the 7 figure range USD or UKP.

So he is alright Jack!

The extra mile for many now will be to the door, without a backwards glance at the pit and the increasing number of aircraft undergoing "Maintenance" near Mirdif.

Mrs Alwayz was upbeat, back on the Farm for Sept 1st minus whatever outstanding leave I have in the bank.

Class man management "Pit Style"

Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 10:29

Pay Review is out...!
 
We didn't get the 3%.

It's spin. It's a contractual step which was par to the package when you joined.

We got nothing but a slight reduction in overtime.

The way that some people are interpreting this just shows how the company has managed to pull the wool over people's eyes for so long now.

fatbus 25th May 2015 10:30

Recuitment will thrive with that announcement !

dashman20 25th May 2015 10:30

Might as well start my new sick policy when down route...much more effective.
What a total ball ache!

Kapitanleutnant 25th May 2015 10:40

AAR Laughing at us all the way to the bank!!

777-200LR 25th May 2015 10:46

I wonder when this will sink in?! :ugh:

As pinfish mentioned, I am starting to believe the shortage numbers of guys/gals has been over exaggerated by us on this forum.

Kapitanleutnant 25th May 2015 10:56

-200LR…

Wondering why few if any of us are getting 42 days leave vs just the 30 mandated by law….

There has to be a reason for that… and I still think it's manning issues, both cabin crew and pilots.

Kap

donpizmeov 25th May 2015 11:10

Can't believe he could waste so much space in saying we are getting f@ck all.

Even more insulting to have to wait to be told. The only true words from him was to state the future would be challenging.

777-200LR 25th May 2015 11:11

Kapitanleutnant - i don't disagree, the signs are clear but if its really true that aircraft are being "parked" and "we have 3 A380s sitting in Hamburg with no one to fly them", then we would have seen something similar to the 2007-2008 pay rise numbers. I still stand by we aren't as desperate as some say we are...at least for now anyway.

I'm sure you can read through the frustration. I was expecting something big, but I politley have had it with listening about our crewing issues.

Mr Good Cat 25th May 2015 11:33


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 8988848)
Can't believe he could waste so much space in saying we are getting f@ck all.

Even more insulting to have to wait to be told. The only true words from him was to state the future would be challenging.

Of course it could be challenging. His repatriation flight in November could he cancelled due to lack of crew. He may have to fly with BA :eek:

kingpost 25th May 2015 11:33

Come on guys, what were you expecting!!

Give them a step increase and let's see what happens! I bet there's a war chest ready in waiting!!

Wordsworth 25th May 2015 11:38

Disgusted
 
Not that it really matters in the big scheme of things, but does anyone know if our cabin crew colleagues have received anything yet? Engineers?Dispatchers, ground staff etc?

Does anyone have accurate increases for our friends to the south or North?

Just wondering?

Over and Out

puff m'call 25th May 2015 11:48

Insult and a joke it's as simple as that.

Open the HR page on the portal and read what HH says:

"I'm counting on you dedication and teamwork for next year"

Well he can stick that where sand doesn't blow, I won't be here!!!!!.

SOPS 25th May 2015 11:54

I'm shocked, I thought you would get at least the step plus 10%. They really have no idea of the problem they have.

airbusgirl66 25th May 2015 12:13

So the 330/340 fleet that has the most duty hours (yet usually the least flight hours), least days off, and all the $hit flights will get screwed just a little bit harder. Unbelievable. :\

thrustidle74 25th May 2015 12:14

Another pay cut
 
To me it's another pay cut. The step increase is for our seniority. Here is the link for the official infilation rate in UAE.

United Arab Emirates Inflation Rate Forecast

And that's from the government. We all know that it's biased from our bills.
Re reduction in overtime threshold, it's not something given to us, it's a fraction of what has been stolen from us years back.

I'm not venting, angry or frustrated anymore. I'm just giving the facts. I wasn't expecting much and I was right.

I'm still sending out applications....only if I had a better passport I'd be gone by now. I'm one of those who is stuck and that's what they are counting on.

TI74

Payscale 25th May 2015 12:19

My guess is there has been a change of policy. I would not be surprised if we in the next month will welcome new colleagues who have never flown a jet.

All that will do is put more pressure on the training dept. The logic probably being "if they can do it with cadets, they can do it with turboprop pilots".

By opening this segment there will be no shortage.

Maybe...maybe not.

Otherwise its bold move, borderlining cocky, to only give the 3% in the second best year.

How is the saying. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I dont think I shall buy into the extra mile rhetoric again..


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