I hate to burst your bubble fellas but look back at prune history 4,5,6,7,8 years ago on Emirates threads. Common subjects are too much work; unsustainable; medical fatigue; parking aircraft and not enough crew.
On top of that auditors, HR ladies and others telling pilots how many people actually resigned.
BS. All of it.
The thread and the ideas are best part of 10 years old and none of them are true and nothing will happen EXCEPT... Today is the best it will ever be in Emirates. That was the case 10 years ago and it's the case now.
You have two options:
1. Suck it up and get on with it, or
2. Resign.

Hmmm.

10 years ago, was EK recycling staff numbers to try and disguise the number of resignations? That's the latest trick - new joiners (CC, don't know about flight deck) are being issued staff numbers that used to belong to former staff that have subsequently resigned. The HR system has a "shadow" number that is their "real" number used in determining seniority for staff travel boarding, etc. But staff numbers that do not correspond to the actual number of hiring taking place are being detected - and no, they are not of re-joiners. Interesting the lengths EK are going to, to try and prevent the truth about number of resignations from emerging.

10 years ago, were CC ab initio hires resigning during training?

10 years ago, were pilots resigning to return to the likes of Ryanair?

10 years ago, was there even any debate as to whether EK was a preferred employer over Qatar and the unmentionable company?

10 years ago, was EK having difficulty attracting pilots to even attend roadshows? (A recent one in NZ drew....no one.)

And on and on. EK's reputation as an employer has fallen far, and breathtakingly fast.

Sorry, but while employee complaining may be pretty constant, the current situation cannot be compared to 10 years ago any more than the airline itself can be compared to EK in 2005.

Yes, latest batch of pilots are 40xxxx...

You are right!! how strange! numbers 44xxxx and 40xxxx mixed!:bored:

The fact is that EK needs a lot more pilots (and cabin crew, engineers and, if my recent attempts at renewing my medical are anything to go by, Doctors.) than it did 10 years ago.

A decade back if an airline went broke, which they did with monotonous regularity, EK could mop up 50 or 100 pilots and keep their recruitment going for several months. Now airlines aren't disappearing the way they used to and 50 pilots is a drop in the ocean compared to what EK needs to recruit. Even for those without a job Emirates is no longer a first choice employer.

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yeah how does that work with the latest batch having 404... numbers?

strange things happen....again...

And I bet you 10 years ago, EK would have had no trouble voted as one of the top 10 employers in Dubai, probably would have easily done number one.....not anymore.

Are the 40xxxx numbers for DEC's? Haven't bothered looking and can't be bothered. Just a thought.

As for operations, one week slow down, next week speed up, 6 years of follow the unofficial timeline, now remove the unofficial timeline, adjust the seniority numbers...... :ugh: You couldn't make this nonsense up if you tried and hardly the stuff to inspire confidence amongst those at the front line. Communication is sadly lacking and the analogy of being adrift on a rudderless ship springs to mind.........or have we already struck the iceberg and nobody has told the Captain?

Harry

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Probably but you would be without loss of licence insurance and death in service coverage.
Just so you know.

In the U.S. - seniority list is updated monthly. You can see who's removed. Their names are still on list with removal code next to the name. Every year a 'new' list is published and the prior year's retirees/fired/quit disappear.

Company also posts a monthly retirement list. Probably out Monday/Tuesday since it typical takes a couple of days. Monthly update to your effecitve seniority list - IE, you're #2000, 20 guys retire in April, effective seniority is updated in early May to reflect you're now #1980.

Perhaps off topic :

STC had a valid point when he claimed EK utility of the A380 is a success story.

It's not the equipment .. Performance / etc

It's the ability of the giant to haul more pax per crew

I have also seen staff on the SN list who left months ago. I don't get it anyway, why do they care if were know the percentage?

EK also had to shell out 1.5mil euro do to classes in Toulouse being cancelled...they can't fill them.

JUMPSEATS coming to mind, applying the same rules that apply to roster when it comes roster swaps, not putting a duty in between your 5 days off, and it will cost the company nothing, but it will keep a lot of pilots happy..... Just my 5cents

heard that more than one doc also resigned on Apr 1.....

Unfortunately, it wasn't the Gnome.

That Turkish Roadshow a few weeks ago… someone said the pilot recruiter running the show had been at Emirates a few years back. I heard someone say that HE was still on the seniority list and he's been at Turkish for 2.5 years!!

I do know of one personally who did indeed resign. Shame really, very good doctor and classy individual.

They do really seem intent on driving the machine into the ground.

Well drop us the name and we'll tell you if said individual was indeed here! But whatever the BS going on I would highly doubt that same person is still on the EK seniority list...

No, he's still on the EK list, and yes, he was on the TY committee. Initials AB.

Will Malaysian (getting rid of A380/777/A330) Pilots now be heading to EK.
Might ease the Crewing crisis.