What, the outsource training that's costing us millions of wasted dollars because there's nobody to fill the courses, and quite rightly the training centres are not refunding this bunch of mis-managers at the last minute for the unused slots...?

Row harder minions...

Support the 3 Lagacies if you want to have a bright future back home

Or

Fight the 3 back home if you want to stay there


Your choice



Join ALPA PAC, then raise your voice to ALPA as well, about preferential Interview etc

Siting back and expecting others to fight on your behalf is not an option

sluggums

I had also heard that we have very recently cancelled some third party training but I had no idea that the cost was into the millions? It is not that expensive for a type rating course or maybe you know something that I don't? ;)

One can only suspect that it is due to the fact that we can't recruit in the numbers required.

92 hrs a month is crazy. Whereas 70-75 hrs with neighbours.

92 hours a month, every month, for years was one of my reasons for leaving. I decided it was going to seriously affect my health if I did not stop. And funnily enough, my EK doctor agreed with me.

Crazy ! Cant imagine doing it months together back to back.:ugh:

Try years back to back.

Transitcheck sums up perfectly the improvements needed at EK , there is two things going against us, first, they don't care about improvement of our quality of life, second ,with the staffing shortage coming soon the last solution on their board is lowering productivity. This next bonus might be a good one, but it will be like using a plastic bandage over an axe wound.

So how much a third year 777 first officer makes at Emirates that flies
92 hrs per month ? I want to know cash in your pocket and how much they put in your provident fund

More than you would have made at COPA as a Capt I would think. Let it go...you fly shorthaul with a "lagacy" (too much spoiler perhaps?) now. Try and be happy with that.

6% more than a 1st year.

:rolleyes:

92 hrs at Copa left seat is around 120k.... .....Not much but if you hop to China is 19.5k per month after you get 1000 pic... Friends done that
They provide housing and 2 extra monthly payments per year ... So 8 weeks extra ( Copa)
You may want to look into it. Close to US

And 7 year wide body 76 and up FO is 159 per hr plus 4.50 override so for 92hrs (rig of course , flying 78-80) is 15042 per month plus 16 percent retirement plus PS 7 k that's low but it is what it is in the States

Per
Airlinepilotcentral.com rates plus 6percent since they are not updated

Now can you answer the question? What's so hard DPZMOV




I am asking because someone told me 3-4 year Fos on the 777 make close to 200k per year ,,,

I would think a third year FO would make less than a Capt in China, and less than a 7th year FOs pre tax salary on the 767 in United. I am not sure what you are trying to work out?
I don't think FOs are flying 92hrs here. I will wait for them to correct me here, but they seem to be flying around the 75 to 85 hour mark. That may only be the fleet I am on though. Capts are certainly cranking out the hours.
Perhaps you should compare after tax 1st year salaries?

Don I would have to disagree. I'm approaching my 4th year now. For the last 6 months I've been maxed out. 97.5 last month. Called 2 times on days off to cover flying which I was happy to say no too! I know of a few others that are the same as me. So it may not be all fo's but it is quite a few for sure.

Thank you Don

DON
 

:(

For nearly a year FOs are pushing out max hours and getting called on days off. Hence the new roster will be giving minimum legal days off so they can work you on AD and ruin the rest of your roster month. :ugh:

Exit plan on the horizon.

J:E

So there you go. Seems everyone is at max hours now. What a well oiled machine. What could possibly go wrong?

91hrs plus plus this month.

Same last month.

Over 92 hours in a month not long before that.

This has been the norm for almost a year now!

So yes, FO's are flying 92hrs a month.

Can't get leave, can't swap flights & the rosters suck = health starting to suffer

Not on 330 by the way.

EK Rosters = :yuk:

380 FOs fly 75-90
777 FOs fly 92+
Captains 93+ in all fleets.

That amount (after tax)is about right if you take in consideration accommodation allowance, provident fund, school allowance for 2 kids and that doesn't include the 12+ weeks bonus that we will get this year !!!😈

back to the future of EK.

The Ad on the this site asks "Where could you be Tomorrow?"

A very good question indeed for many here in the Pit .................................:D