TRE's are not using the new system.

Sausage...not thinking of bouncing over..rather fly a Twotter in Oceania than continue flying the big jets for a bunch of heathens... That said.. Looks like you guys are going through a pre 49 ears round up...if the resignations are that bad and management don't give a stuff, maybe it's time to usurp the road show programme?....are there pilots involved in this scam or just trainee lizards and PR cretins??

Fattie are you sure?

Fatbus,

I said that they got introduced to the system... Not that they are beeing already rostered with it...

How many days off for the 777 long haul and A380 crews? Due to longer flights won't they get more days off than the minimum of 8?

That said, thanks for the info I used to really want to work for EK, after reading these threads I'm having second thoughts...

Indeed HVYMETAL, but nothing wrong with a bit of hysteria from time to time!!!

Have not seen the new system, bid for Apr closed on the 12 th feb for all trainers. Talk is apr bidding for jun .

Can you give a sample "normal" 777 or A380 or other long haul schedule? You don't have to post yours, just an example of what a trip might look like? That's all I'd be interested in if I can get more than 11 days off per month. I'm currently flying domestic narrow body here in th USA (I was at a U.S. regional before that) so I'm not really interested in 5 legs a day on an A320.

Again, thanks for the info.

Assume you haven't done much (if any?) reading. Impossible to answer your questions as everything is in the process of changing once again.

New Duty Limitiations as defined by the licensing authority:

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/55...any-worse.html

New rostering system soon to be put into place by Emirates:

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/55...-sytem-ek.html

You would be best served by watching this space for 6 months. You will get your answers by then ....... I put money on an absolute disaster based upon the current management arrogance and ineptitude.

I've read a lot thanks and everything is vague, I'm assuming they're worried about management scouring these forums which is ok I understand.

Someone on another forum mentioned that pairings and schedules at EK are bid on by seniority (so a senior pilots gets pick of the litter over a junior FO). According to the other thread this is not so at QR?

Either way I'll keep reading this thread for new info.

Any chance there might be any pilots from the 'unmentionable' here who may care to pm me with some info on their conditions there?

It's very hard to find up to date info on how their conditions, rosters and culture are. Any info would be greatly appreciated guys!

Cheers in advance.

Clear the cookies from your browser (and type the address manually if still not working). :)

https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.c...acaa-and-iata/

Using the https wordpress link works:

https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.com

Good read down route

Shania,

Let's see, you posted that according to your findings:

1. Cabin Crew are worked like dogs
2. The managers bully their team and favor some over others
3. Labour law issues (no union)
4. Work/lifestyle balance

Why would anybody accept a position with those working conditions? How much more insight do you need?

Much discontent within Flight Deck and Cabin Crew.
How is it with hangar staff, LAE and other technical staff? Qa, Tech Services, Planning etc?

The line engineers are working flat out and in a block of four days off, it is now routine for them to get called on one of those four days. Despite it being a day off, they can only refuse coming into work if they have a sick note from the Doc.

If you cant deal with the work,pressure and all...send your CV and work for another airline.
Seriously,over eating,over sleeping,not
working out is an early sign of depression i agree,but wouldnt it be the right time to leave??
There are many airlines in the world.....give them the finger,move and get on with your life.

de facto, it has been said before but it is not always that easy to "just leave".

If you have any debt in Dubai (and most of the Cabin Crew have a fair bit of debt- they have loans and credit cards almost thrust upon them from the day they collect their first paycheck. The banks have desks set up in the training college on payday.) you can't leave. It has to be paid off first. If you skip town without paying it (and crew do sometimes simply not show up after a layover) you will be thrown in jail if you ever set foot in Dubai again.

For the pilots/engineers, if you have moved your family halfway around the world to come to Dubai to "just leave" would involve taking the children out of school, possibly your wife out of her job, and moving your entire life halfway around the world- again. This in itself is highly stressful, especially if you don't have a job to go to.

Emirates working conditions.....
 

BigGeorie, that's what they have been counting on for years and it has worked. That stopped working last year and is now the reason for the new 5 year bond over the previous 3 year bond. They believe they can just keep people from leaving with the threat of legal/criminal action in Dubai if you ever come back. Lol. That's easy. Don't come back. Lol

Flight Deck and Cabin Crew are both leaving at alarming rates and even without finishing their contracts.

I'll be doing the same if DECs go to the B777 without taking those qualified first. My family will be waiting for me to give my two weeks notice from the safety of their own beds in the homeland.

The train has derailed here and the front of it hasn't even seen the dust yet. It's amazing how the blinders were on for so long. It's now time to sit back and laugh.