Until I see the GCAA ref doc , I thinking this is a EK think started by that little DR in EGHQ that has been a real spot of bother for some if not many pilots.

Agreed Outatowner - valid points. Absolute control freaks.

This is why the notion of basings is never going to happen.

So where is this GCAA doc?

Whatever :rolleyes:

I personally find this very worrying

This is evidently not a GCAA requirement (yet)

Nothing being circulated at Air Arabia and to my knowledge flydubai either

One can only interpret this as another control abuse ... Anything published to employees of a company big as Ek should be scrutinized by a higher authority .. This would prevent any person with elevated intellectual abilities from becoming another office nazi

apologies if I sound furious but I have lived long enough in the region to have witnessed all sort of abuse and this is another reminder of the quality of managers spread across the region

I'm so glad I have resigned.

Not saying it's right but...

Depending on how much one considers an "advisory" publication a requirement, it is a GCAA requirement and can be found in CAAP 10 Aeromedical. Go to Subpart G - Aviation Psychiatry, Paragraph 4 - Alcohol Screening Tests (or page 91 for those who want the easy route). It's more or less verbatim what was in the e-mail.

The CAAP was issued in September and took effect on November 1st of this year. One can only assume its being used to formulate the actual regulation that is coming into effect as per the e-mail.

It does say earlier on in the CAAP (page 30) that the indicators are less sensitive to intermittent binge drinking so there seems to be an upside... :}

Happy New Year everyone and go easy on the bubbles ;)

Ok like I said above ....I'm so glad I have resigned. I can't wait to take the dogs for walk on the beach, and have a beer as I watch them.....good bye every one..and good luck

Good luck SOPS. I'll be gone soon too. Seven years. Things will continue a downward slide. No doubt.

It took me 3 weeks to hit the 'send' button, when I did, the relief was amazing.

Envious of you two!! You "escaped".

Good luck SOPS, am here 8 years I think is time .....

Wine or beer is acceptable if it's not on a regular basis. Excessive drinking is always the problem, time limits play no part there as hangover can last for couple of days after drinking.

Alcohol is there for social gatherings and it is desirable to use it wisely. A glass or two are enough to have fun.

Problem is that Emirates do want to control private lives of their employees. I know a cabin crew who got sick, so he was called for a meeting and accused of "clubbing and drinking" and having hangover (that guy resigned soon after that and went for a medical treatment as he had some rare disease).

It's not an unusual thing for ground staff to come to work straight from parties and celebrations. They have no holidays and no weekends, working 12 hours daily and almost no social lives whatsoever. But they just have to tag bags ans smile. If they try to actually do their job and present first security check point and to care who is boarding planes, they will be discouraged or punished. It's a very different situation for pilots and cabin crews. At least it should be.

This rule would pass much easier if the company would just give its employees enough days off to socialize, go to clubbing, go out, drink with friends. But when employees don't have that, many anomalies will show up. Especially in bad working conditions and overall staff dissatisfaction. So, it's just another unwise pressure (probably religiously motivated) which will come back to hit the management in the head.

Edit:
And this "3rd party notifications for suspected drug or alcohol misuse" really opens up some space for suspicious activities and abuse.

I understand FR has now resigned her position. My guess is her replacement won't be good for the medical department or crew.

'Good-bye Tomorrow' to be the new catch phrase?!

@RBS,

Any idea why she resigned..? Any clues..?

Not firsthand. Heat from more than one front including, apparently, the GCAA.

I think you should start drinking. Then you'd have an excuse for being patently unhinged.

Thanks for making my year with "I no longer work for Emirates" though, that news is far more magical than anything I got for Christmas.

MATRON....!!!

Bring the jacket.:bored:

Eeee...wow! Great post mensaboy :ugh: And I thought "mensa" somehow implied intelligence...

Moving on... (as should you)

Mensa. I used to enjoy some of the posts before you disappeared. Sorry to say your post leaves a lot to be desired. All the best for 2015.

Mensachild- What a terrible slanderous post. I hope WhiteKnight has the dignity not to respond to you. I echo Dropp, in stating I am glad you no longer work for EK. You have no place in any flight deck in any airline.

I sincerely wish you all the best for the future though and have a wonderful 2015.