EK Pay review
 

OK, so now the profit share is done and dusted. Time for next topic, pay review.

What do you make of these numbers?:

http://www.dsc.gov.ae/Reports/Consum...dex%202014.pdf

http://www.dsc.gov.ae/Reports/Consum...dex%202013.pdf

BW

The priority should always be on decent basic pay rise. This stays with us and forms the basis for future pay reviews and Company contributions to provident fund and profit share calculations. 3200-3500dhs is the sum profit share for GR2's and GR1's this year thanks to basic pay of around 4500-5500. If their flight pay was taken into account, the profit share would be almost double. A purser will collect around 5500 max. An extreme example perhaps but nonetheless a valid one in my opinion.

I do accept that rents and house values have risen at an alarming rate within the last 18-24 months as have school fees and general living costs including grocery items and clothes. These increased costs must be taken into account when considering an increase in the respective allowance especially for many grades, including cabin crew, who have no option but to move out when they marry and have family.

As pilots it's a different story. The Company provided us accommodation and the choice to rent or buy was ours. We knew the risks and some guys took it. For those that bought, well done. Those that rent.....good luck. Either way, as Tom Cruise famously shouted....."SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Harry

@Harry

Was it not Cuba Gooding Jr. who shouted "SHOW ME THE MONEY..!!!"..?

Just sayin'......:p:p

Actually, they both shouted it. If you want to join in with them, go for it!

shouldn´t today be the day??

Last year it was announced the Wednesday after the results were announced. So yes, it could (should?) be today...

Baby 'show me the money' (Jerry Maguire) - YouTube

Show me the money!!

When was the last time you guys had a decent pay hike?

dont ask...

4pm on a Thursday. It looks like no announcement this week...

If it isn't out today it won't make the May salary.

They often do it after 5 p.m. on Thursday to let it sink in over weekend.:=

Past 5pm and no pay review?? WTF??

I see that as good news. 'They' want it to be a big announcement not just a Thursday push-and-run.

VERY doubtful. But hope springs eternal...

Weren't we expecting good news at the big announcement about profit share?

But please keep going the extra mile etc etc etc.


The Don

The Qantas news must have forced a pay review re think meeting of the bean counters so they can do exactly that...count their beans post QF redundancy announcement.

QF guys wil mostly go to China for Oz bases, commuting rosters

No DECs or SOs accepted by EK so FO only. Not much to gain for the beanies!

I recall payraise being done in May showing up on June pay Profit share being announced in April showing up on the May pay


But I'm sure some of our EK astronauts proclaim to be better informed

No news in the email YET because "the fleet" are still out door-knocking on Thursday night in an unprecedented display of good relations and high spirits, delivering the good news personally to all 3800 or whatever pilots face to face. Caring and sharing and paying big bucks all over again to show how much they love their pilots.


God I love this place.


Whitey, that's called irony. Try to keep up.

Does that mean the raise is happenong but not for May?

Profit share = GIVE

TAKE = announce "any" increase later than the 14th so that it is a month less paid at that rate as it will be paid a month later.

Don't fool yourself into thinking the announcement date has any impact on what date the new rates take effect. If they want the new pay amount to start this month it will.

BD

I'd probably go with the opposite that no matter when the announcement comes, if they only want pay to increase from July, it will.

Sadly...

Fong

Your first revised pay will be on the May pay check. In very, very rare circumstances the new pay is only revealed a few months later but the amount is then back-dated to May.

You have actually been earning your new salary for the last three weeks, you just don't know what it is yet.....

Fatbus

If you go into HR Direct and look at your history of contract adjustment letters you will see that the pay review is consistently dated in may. Don't have to be an astronaut to figure that out.

That is because they need you to go the extra mile but dont want to demoralize anyone before it is absolutely necessary:{.

Of course they have already decided on the new pay scales. If they are to be demoralizing it would have made more sense to announce it before the profit share announcement.

Starting to hear some 'wild' rumors on pay ...coming from a lot of angles.

Not holding my breath.

f.

Care to share? After all this is a rumour network, isn't it?

We can all not hold our breath here ......

Tons of rumors. Like the 30%, but with flying upped to 100 hours a month? It is all over the board, you can only speculate and wait at this point. Isn't that the fun part this time of year? :bored:

Heard same as above... Except it would be voluntary.

That is those who want to stay on current would ...and those who wanted the 100 hrs per month with associated 10k pay raise could.

To nullify any suggestion that it was imposed.

Interesting.

Do NOT SHOOT the rumor spreader pls...it's just a rumor.

f.

I heard the same thing.

I'm doing 92 hours now, so not much difference there. Or do you mean 1,200 a year? Not that I want to give them any ideas... (And I can't see the GCAA going for that.)

Well, they have left a vacuum and it is being filled with speculation that runs the spectrum: crappy to great news coming.

Give a couple of pilots a few hours in cruise and voila, a new rumour is born! Before long it morphs into 'fact'.

If you are at work today, start a new one and see how long it takes to get back to you! It's good to have a hobby!

100hrs per month? no thanks. I prefer quality of life and family time.

100 hours a month, a modest pay rise but free coffin:ok:

100 hours/month .... that's a recipe for disaster. And a quick way to the grave!!

90 hrs a month
100 hrs a month
200 hrs a month (in jest)

Apart from the obvious extra flying in that month,
You guys and Girls would still be capped to the GCAA maximum of 900hr a year

a lot of speculation and no news yet. They are keeping it interesting this year. FFS just send it out.