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TheDarkHorse 19th Apr 2014 13:36

4 holer hits bridge at YYZ
 
So I've been informed a whale has ran into a bridge at YYZ. The bridge was parked in the wrong position apparently (A6-EDZ). Its also on EK Source

Airmann 19th Apr 2014 14:47

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlYCLShCYAENw4f.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ble-3TeCQAAp4vC.jpg:large

Taylor01 19th Apr 2014 21:26

It is not called a whale!
 
The 747 has been called a whale for years. This plane looks nothing like a whale! Come up with another name! I like the flying vagina....ugly on the outside but feels good on the inside! :ok:

Vortac1 19th Apr 2014 21:47


I like the flying vagina....ugly on the outside but feels good on the inside!
Post of the month right here fellas...

Fart Master 20th Apr 2014 01:34

That term has been used for the last 5 years, hardly original.

glofish 20th Apr 2014 02:24

OK, whale is gone, we'll take up vagina.

As a matter of fact ,see what damage a vagina can do ..... ;)

Panther 88 20th Apr 2014 04:17

Whale=747 not for just years but for almost a half century. The 380 does in fact look a bit like a Beluga whale...so how about "the Beluga" if you have sensitivities or want to be PC with regard to the above, that is. But "whale"? sorry that's almost sacrilegious.

Saltaire 20th Apr 2014 08:20

Feel for the crew, could happen to anyone - hope they get put back on-line soon.

Rather Be Skiing 20th Apr 2014 09:01


Originally Posted by Saltaire (Post 8442313)
Feel for the crew, could happen to anyone - hope they get put back on-line soon.

Too true. Of course, the punishment will fit the publicity not the crime.

glofish 20th Apr 2014 09:45


Feel for the crew, could happen to anyone
Definitely!

This might serve as a small warning sign. After all the skipper will remain responsible for such incidents, no matter what Joe, Bill or Dick manipulated the bridge or the vagina!

Imagine someone got hurt or killed on the bridge, how do you think your case would hold up in court in the US, especially if it turned out that you left with CD from Dubai already ....

Be careful out there, especially these coming days.

Padawan Learner 20th Apr 2014 10:21

Wonder if the guys were busy getting the engines configured during the final 4m to the gate..

Still think our 'compulsory' 'Engine out taxi' is such a great idea??

:uhoh::eek:

harry the cod 20th Apr 2014 10:42

Crew will always be removed from roster while investigation proceeds, that's standard here and not reflective of blame. Previous incidents have resulted in no dismissal and so it shouldn't unless a clear case of negligence is evident.

So, before we all jump around like headless chickens, just wait until the feedback is forthcoming from the Company. As for that last comment Padawan, I'm not sure what you're implying? Maybe similar to those 'clever' guys on the B777 that can say they've single engined taxi because an engine is shut down 4m from the gate?

Do that all the time, you deserve what you get. Either do a single engine taxi because you can or don't do it. It's not compulsory, neither is it unsafe in appropriate circumstances.

Harry

joy ride 20th Apr 2014 11:00

Far too late to use the name Beluga!

ironbutt57 20th Apr 2014 11:27

it's the Dugong folks..Dugong.....:ok:

JayGatsby 20th Apr 2014 15:24

And winner of the 2014 Pprune 'most sanctimonious post and wisest after the event before any of the facts are known' awards go to.....


(The trophy is a beautifully carved mahogany replica of a prune sat astride your choice of jet - halo around its head and an expression on its mug simultaneously capturing both steely eyed righteousness and impressionable stupidity)

Outatowner 21st Apr 2014 00:37

In fact Harry the company has a track record of summary dismissal following events and prior to any proper investigation or even inducing "resignation" with gross levels of psychological pressure and fear tactics. The fact that in a number of events the crew were subsequently reinstated following an examination of what actually happened doesn't change that.

There doesn't seem to be any headless chicken jumping here except in your post.


the punishment will fit the publicity not the crime.
Absolutely spot on.

harry the cod 21st Apr 2014 08:45

Outatowner

I would not have disagreed with that observation about 3-4 years ago. Without wishing to sound as a Company apologist, I would not agree with that now. Since JA has taken over from Useless Ed, nobody has been dismissed for events such as this.....and we have had some.

The Company has realised sacking people aka Qatar airways is not good for recruitment and, considering the National culture of blame that pervades in this region, have done a reasonable job in achieving that.

I will standby to be corrected if evidence proves otherwise.

Harry The Headless Chicken ;)

lowstandard 23rd Apr 2014 12:56

I'm assuming the crew followed the VDGS as everyone always does. If they confirmed the correct aircraft type as we always do, then they are not to blame. How can anyone judge proper gate positioning on an airplane the size of the 380. I understand if the gate trucks are in position on the little circle or square etc...
There is no published guidance for gate positioning in YYZ and as close as YYZ is to Khartoum operationally, I am sure there is an element of trust in the guidance system provided by the GTAA.
If the crew gets spanked by EK, then every time I am slightly unsure of how close the gate is, I will stop and request a tow in or marshaller guidance (as per OM_A). Even during the ****show in DXB we are about to witness.


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