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helen-damnation 2nd Feb 2014 19:07

Obviously spoken by someone who hasn't stood in the front line!

I wear a poppy every year, and I'll be doing the same again. You shame yourself.


your behaviour and appearance can and will influence those that fly with you
Totally true. What you forget is that it's not the uniform that leads, it's the person and there are many styles. Those who insist on being called Captain are standing behind the uniform. Those who are leaders use the uniform.

Should we call you "Harry the God"? :hmm:

harry the cod 3rd Feb 2014 05:39

Helen

You're right, I haven't stood at the front line, neither have 95% of EK pilots I'd imagine. My own Grandfather served in the Home guard during WW2. He died when a house he was evacuating in Stretford, Manchester was hit by a second bomb. My own father was 4 at the time and witnessed this with his late mum at his side. He's never forgotten it and neither have I. My father went on to serve for many years in the RN.

I wear a poppy when I can, just not on my EK uniform. UK Airlines permit them, here it"s different. I have seen guys wear them and good for them. When I heard a pilot from the US asking what one was, I realised that what's important and tradition for some may be irrelevant to others. I totally agree that the person behind the uniform is more important but uniform regulations are there for a reason. Where does it stop? A pink carnation to remember the innocent children killed in Syria, a little green Shamrock to support the IRA, especially if you're from Boston or an ANC flag maybe? We all know there are people who push boundaries when given even a modicum of leniency or discretion. Company policy removes that ambiguity.

You've taken this thread to an extreme with your post and using the emotive argument of war to justify wearing a non authorised accessory to work. It is perhaps yourself who should be ashamed.

Out of respect for the millions who've died throughout the two great wars and ongoing conflicts I will no longer continue with this discussion. Experience on these threads has taught me it's only likely to go one way.

Harry

fliion 3rd Feb 2014 05:52

Well said Harry.

Back to the lanyards gents...

f.

helen-damnation 3rd Feb 2014 12:18

Harry

My respects to your Grandfather and Father as to mine who were wounded in WW1 and pulled from a bombed cinema respectively.

My respect will include wearing a poppy to honour the millions including your Grandfather and my family members. I will never be ashamed of that or arguing for it and yes, it is emotive as it should be IMHO.

H-D

Back to the thread:

Strange how the company issues badges and stars to the CC, offers us (in the past) cancer badges in the briefing area etc but gets knotted up over wearing a watch! AND.. the new lanyard is garbage. Cheap mechanism and no clip on the back!


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