Manual---India is one out of about 200 countries. Why should Indians make up half of EK???
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..... because they account for about 95% of the world's logged hours above 55 tons .....
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Originally Posted by glofish
..... because they account for about 95% of the world's logged hours above 55 tons .....
We have a winner! |
Rightly or wrongly, no insurer would touch EK if what you say happened Going_Manual.
And if they did, the massive increase in premium would more than negate the pilot salary saving. |
Insurance options
a) No insurance, as big enough to cover any hull loss.
b) Nominal self insurance, by shareholders, much like a). c) Insure in local market, much like a). d) Insure in international market. My money is on a)b)c). glf |
If anything I should be thanked as what I have suggested if it ever happened would give work to thousands of unemployed Indian pilots! I am a hero if anything. |
The troll went for a bit of a long term lie down about 12 hours ago
Rob |
Troll has a name. :suspect:
Check the Lao Central thread on SE Asia. |
I am no longer involved in this discussion apprentley I am wrong about EK favouring westerners PS: These 2 hit were top of my google search.... India arrests two more airline pilots with fake certificates - USATODAY.com Fake pilots: DGCA fast-tracks verification : North, News - India Today So if you're not hearing enough Indian accents on the radio, ask yourself why. :cool: |
Warlock, don't even bother.
Check this moron's other posts. Apparently he is a troll that got uncovered. I thought he was Indian but looks like he is American. |
Well said Rich8a10, something not right with the lad ... I guess GM will need to leave that name behind and use another email to start all over again.
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Put it in perspective guys,
It was a good Laugh! If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and taste like duck, It's probably a duck! :rolleyes: Good on you manuals for giving us a good chuckle for 3 pages. :ok: By the way, are you thinking of a career in the staff travel area, we need a mathematician like yourself and unfortunately Alan Joyce is busy at the moment! :E |
....well they have made a good start by making staff fares cheaper to the region....did it move closer ?.
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sorry had to say it
if the Indians allow the 380. will this be the new CREW BUS...... shuttle to work.
glf |
arab spring is reaching EK
is it true that EK is going to nationalized
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"Nationalised'?
It is already owned by the Dubai Government, how much more "Nationalised" can it get? |
I think sadly the DG of the GCAA must read Pprune, there are rumours that ATC in SZC might be going exactly this way, why pay Western expats when you get Indian controllers for half the money. Have fun holding at DESDI and BUBIN in a couple of years guys, you may want to pay very close attention to your TCAS when in the hold!
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going manual.... i support you...
gimme a shiny 380 and i'll fly it for my existing salary... :} |
Plenty of Indians in the office:E
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Pay all the staff you shafted first VJ
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Imagine how many of those CPL's could get online MBA's and replace the Executive Management Team too... Going Manual should be offered an Honorary Doctorate in Visionary Human Resource Management Muppet Theory from any of the Top 100 online universities offering non-certified fast track degrees....
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The reality of recruitment here, is that on balance, the good applicants get through and the not so good don't. Are there nationalities that do better than others, absolutely. Is it a conspiracy, not really, I am pretty sure they will take every Indian they can that is up to the specified standard.
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I believe the original OP was a wind up, unemployed CPL holder of any country , whether US , UK, AUS,NZ, India, Pakistan would not get a chance in any of the carriers but a few points if one were to look at the move from an Indian carrier to the middle east (say P1 A320/B737NG ) to a FZ/AA as a P1 or as P2 with EK/hide at/Qatar.
Purely from a financial POV , unless you could save twice or more what you'd save here in India , IMHO it's not worth being an expat. Remember, once you leave and don't renew your licenses >5 years, your ATPL papers have to be written again and we all know how that's gonna be.You will also give up your seniority which might not mean much now but talk to any 9W pilot who left 10 years ago .....:sad: Yes today the difference in salary is 50% but I know that's not going to be the case in 10 years time .10 years ago , my take home as a P1 on a narrowbody here in India was 30% of what my take home is today , that's a 300% pay rise. I would hazard a guess to say that 10 years from now , the gap in pay & emoluments between our carriers and the middle east carriers would further narrow . The cost of living and education or simple things like domestic help etc. are always going to be way more expensive in these countries. Now, a lot of the pilots that leave Indian carriers are not leaving purely on the financial package being offered. A chance to fly worldwide on a widebody or a change in lifestyle ( unhappy with dealing with the mess that is living in India) or just a change in scenery... some have left ,not liked it and returned too ....to each his own I say. I like the suggestion about hiring pygmies and fuel/weight savings ...beancounters might actually look into it:ok: masalama. |
Kinda broke these days ironman 57...
PS: I know i wrote ironman and not ironbutt ;) |
hahahaha...sure made waste of daddy's hard work...:cool:
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First time I operated to CDG is was cheerily greeted by an Indian ground staff.."welcome to France"...we are truly globalised :ok:
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In about 200 years from now, we all are gonna be hybrid mix of Indians and Chinese... With the two largest population in the world... Sooner or later we're gonna get you :} |
Originally Posted by donpizmeov
eat less ration wise, less weight leading to fuel savings.
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I went to see Russell Peters here without really knowing what to expect...well worth the money...
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Going Manual,
There is one main reason that Emirates does not employ many Indian pilots. It is called an interview. |
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nador 2707 says
Going Manual, There is one main reason that Emirates does not employ many Indian pilots. It is called an interview. Sorry guys, had to bite , couldnt resist . masalama:ok: |
I've no idea about EK, but a company I used to fly for never interviewed Indian pilots because of concerns about the validity of their qualifications and logbooks. There was a perception that there was so much corruption in Indian aviation training that all Indian candidates were regarded as a risk. Obviously tough for all the genuine and able Indian pilots out there.
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@ Trim Stab
Unfortunately what a lot of companies dont realise is that about 80% of the Indian Pilots did not learn to fly in India Most of them went abroad to countries like US , Canada , Australia etc and then came back and converted their foreign CAA licenses Although I dont think the perception of Indian pilots outside India is going to change for the better any time soon ( especially after the FAA downgrade ) |
For the record the many indian pilots I have flown with at EK in my opinion are very capable and very professional!
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For the record the many indian pilots I have flown with at EK in my opinion are very capable and very professional! |
First time I operated to CDG is was cheerily greeted by an Indian ground staff.."welcome to France"...we are truly globalised :ok: It seems immigration, racism and 'globalisation' is only applicable to Europe, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the USA. |
Pilots aren'nt racists??? They're Professional!
This Thread has has exposed enough racist bigots, no matter how they put it. Very poor show indeed. |
You do realize that Indians are not a "race". They are a culture, therefore the people you are attacking are not racists, they are culturalists.
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Meh...
Scientifically, there is no actually classification of "Race" Culture is a similarly imprecise term. "Racist", "Culturalist", "Nationalist" are all merely imprecise sub-sets of the term "Bigot" |
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