Greetings from HK!

EK pilots are always talking about bases in order to stop attrition...fact is that a base in 1st world country is a looooot more expensive (tax, employer's contributions, social security, maternity/paternity/jury leave...) than training a new pilot (and captain). Talk to any CX pilot you know how the bases have worked out here (onshoring dramas, double taxation, AMS/CDG base closure...).

Most of you guys have reached a position in relatively short time compared to a legacy carrier in your home country and now you wanna go home - if I was at EK I would only be interested more money since going home as a 35 year old wide body captain is literally impossible.

AB

The grass always looks greener...well we all know the saying...

The profit Cher this year will be at least 7 (that's Min of SEVEN) times larger than it was last year. How could anyone even be considering leaving. Creedy gunts.
Anyone ever noticed that the lowering of standards for new joiners always happened after they joined? Weird or what?


The Don

I'm sure that when I went to school 7 times 0 was still Zero. :\

Gardenshed


Me to :)


the Don

Any recruitment guys lurking around here who can shed some light on this....?

From Dec. 15 to Jan 12, fifteen have resigned or off the seniority list for one reason or another.

That would indicate a 3.7% attrition rate - including retirements and lost medicals.

Am I getting my math wrong, or does that say that once hired, on average a pilot will remain on EK payroll for 27 years?

Attrition rate
 

Basically Close, in 18.9 years EK will have half the pilot force, it does now,
with 3.7 % consistent attrition rate.

Basically, for accurate numbers, disregard forced retirements, demanded by max age restriction, loss of medical etc... Seems plenty in the pipeline for the right seat to stem 3.7 % annual flight deck trimming.

Safe Journies...Sushi

I heard that 90 guys are serving their 90 days notice period in these days.
Can it be true?

Probable not. People always wish that loads will leave so EK will panic and increase their salary 10 fold....

Well, check Qatar's recruitment page. Canadian basings. Is the ice cracking?:D

TU, did you actually read the QR page or just post something?

Yeah, just assessments there.:bored:

Welcome to the Airline Emirates
Such a lovely place (such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face.
Plenty of room at the Airline Emirates
Any time of year (any time of year) you can find it here

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
'Relax' said the HR man,
'We are programmed to receive.
You can check out any time you like,
But you can never leave!'

I have started to look elsewhere as I see that there is no future here just a treadmill going nowhere.


Profit share only exists on paper, staff travel is a joke, days off are few and far between, Dubai is too expensive even for the basics.

The corporate mentality towards the pilot group is becoming worse by the day.

Desdi, you put it all right on the line. Well said in just a few words.

Desdihold…

SPOT ON as they say here and as Panther said, you summed it ALL up in about 2-3 sentences!

I guess they can and will get away with it until more of us see that door that they often mention is available to us.

Me thinks in about a year's time that door will have to be a rather wide one handling lots of passer by's wanting to go thru it.


K

Well I heard that around 60 or so were offered a gig with China Southern so if the majority decided to jump, then that overall figure could be possible.

I heard that recruitment are starting to feel the pinch too. The required qualifications are in fact more strict now as they are wanting current fly by wire Airbus time for the 380. Guys from the likes of Ryanair will not be getting much of a look in at the moment.

Hi guys, new to the forum. Just felt the urge to register and write a few lines.

Not sure how many are really leaving, but there's certainly more if things keep going the way they're going at the moment.

- I understand that due to many reasons EK needs to increase fares for staff travel tickets. They could just send a note or an email stating the fact and the reasons behind. But sending an email hiding it and, on top of that, advertising it as a massive new benefit? Sounds like no respect for us. (By the way, 20% increase in ID90 for me to fly back home compared to 2013).

- Salary - housing allowance. A 0.5% pay increase last year against a 15% inflation. Massive pay cut.

- I wonder what are they saying to people attending the roadshows when average time to command must be around 8-10 years (at least!) and the advantages of being an expat in Dubai are slowly fading away?

Just a quick thought to finish.

I came to Dubai (and I think everyone else's too) because I could have a better living standard than back home and I was planning to save some good money and help me retire earlier. (Maybe even send my kids to a better uni). Nowadays, Dubai is so expensive and our salary so outdated that I can't save, and my living standard is deteriorating day by day.

Thinking of alternatives now.