Mate of mine, ex-ek 330-340 driver works at China Southern, he has just set up his own recruitment company Tasman Aviation, explicitly to recruit foreign pilots for CSA. Remarkably honest for a Kiwi too, worth getting in contact with him.
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Who owns this company? Looked at the website. No names are mentioned
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DEC, shortlisted 12/2012, any idea what and when next?
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Pilot_Recruit Out of curiosity, when you guys say 90 hours etc, does that include bunk time? I thought I read somewhere that they don't include bunk time but I just wanted to get some up to date info. If it doesn't include bunk time, how many hours are you actually flying then? Cheers. Bunk time is counted towards your monthly/yearly limits. But fully taken into account for flight pay. |
Bunk time is counted towards your monthly/yearly limits. But fully taken into account for flight pay. @ EK, Bunk goes to your monthly limit. It does not go towards the 900hr yearly stick limit. It goes toward the other mystical limit of stick+bunk must not exceed 1000hrs.. It is taken into account for flight pay. |
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Typo from my side.... Bunk time is NOT counted towards both your monthly and yearly limit as per OM-A 7.20 Flying hours credited to augmenting crew members for the purposes of calculating the absolute limits on flying hours (for both 100 hours in 28 days and the 900 hours for any consecutive 12 month period) will be based on the actual time in an operating seat, as recorded by the Voyage Report. BTW.. To make things a bit more challenging.... If you are designated operating crew, bunk time will be taken into account for all the limits....:\ |
900 hours is brutal, bunk or no bunk!
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While 900 is a lot it doesn't have to be that brutal.....3 USA trips per month would do it.....of course nobody gets schedules like that.
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Shame - try 1000 hours a year in an LCC !!!!!!
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And just to clarify, you get paid on the 1000 stick+bunk limit not just the stick time? But the main constant here is change - for the worse. Credit (pay) hours include dead-heading and bunk time however this has not always been the case and will one day change again as the need for ever-tightening belts continues to assert itself. For the time being though, the *****s running things here are restricted by their main phobia of paying us a single cent more than is necessary. Since credit hours include everything, the goal is to ensure no one does more than approx *90 hours per month in an airplane in any seat or even the bunk. This won't last long. *90 - ie the monthly limit which is worked out to the 5th decimal place, depending on the number of days in that month. |
BunkPilot,
You do not get paid for every hour spent in the aircraft. You get paid for every SCHEDULED hour. Big difference. If you hold over desdi for an hour don't expect to get paid for the extra time aloft. |
That's true, Laker. The book used to say something about "unusual differences to the scheduled flight time" would be paid but no one would define "unusual" or whatever term they used and of course no one ever got paid extra for their time.
The system works for you occasionally, too. High MN, better tailwinds, large block time and good vectors without holding sometimes (very occasionally) get a good reduction in flight time. Take what you can, when you can. Give nothing back beyond what they pay for. (That's their mantra para-phrased.) |
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