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Dogged 15th May 2013 11:01

I got the email...but they spelt my name wrong.
How do I interpret that?

HighLow 15th May 2013 11:02

Guys and Gals,

who actually writes this stuff? its amazing.

If the goal was to write a clear and meaningful pay review, this would have been graded an "F" in school by my old English Teacher.

SUMMARY
3.5% it is (for those who are eligible) 0.5% for those who are not.


Pay Reviews / Badly Worded, Convoluted FCI's
come on, how about you raise the bar a bit
how about a bit of clarity in the future,
leaving no room for doubt! too much to ask?

P.S. Looks like more investment for Dubai?
I thought they were broke?

10 mega projects to adorn Dubai | GulfNews.com

falconeasydriver 15th May 2013 11:07

Nothing seen.....go around Flap 20....

I did get 3 emails from various investment brokerages that somehow "managed" to get past the company spam filter...:hmm:

camel_hump 15th May 2013 11:12

To those who got the email, was it individually addressed to your name or was it via a DL? If they writing a different name on all the email then I can understand why some of us hasn't receive it yet. Someone must be typing the hell away at a keyboard now.

Taylor01 15th May 2013 11:18

individually addressed
 
Mine was addressed to me directly like every year.

yada.yada.yada 15th May 2013 11:19

Ex 380 is right on the money...6.5% total. Further down in the paragraph, there is a sentence that starts with "As well as" so it's 3.5% for everyone and 3% for those eligible.

HighLow 15th May 2013 11:25

Maybe the letter should have tried to simplify OM A- Chap 7 also :)

3.5% or 6.5%
Now, I am totally confused :)

I am going for a long walk to find a Brick Wall so to bang my head against !
:ugh:

Shaky Hands 15th May 2013 11:30

So Now the Pay Review....
 
Completely frustrated now as I still don't have an email to be confused about!!

bidabon 15th May 2013 11:30

Got it eventually !
TCAS strikes again !! I sort of understand it is 6.5% but it is open to any interpretation one more time ... just like every year.

Wait and see.

Rim-job 15th May 2013 11:46

I think I'm gonna go have a few cold ones... maybe then it will make sense. I'm guessing whoever wrote this was of a similar frame of mind by the looks of it.

Surely, writing an email of such importance cannot be that hard to mess up due to the lack of certainty and vagueness. :ugh:

I'm actually more confused now then i was when i first read it.

fringhtok 15th May 2013 11:51

Anyone else still not received the mysterious, and apparently confusing, email?

givemewings 15th May 2013 11:55

Must have been written by the same person who did the one about visa renewal... :hmm:

Do you think there's a special course they send them on in how to write emails giving as much info as possible but in a way that the general workforce struggles to comprehend what they are actually talking about? (And this is the native English speakers, I do wonder how the ESL crowd get on trying to read some of these bizarre missives)

Rather Be Skiing 15th May 2013 11:56

I am out and about. Has anyone checked their adjustment on HR to see if it is reflected there. That should clarify the actual amount.

Why it needs to be this confusing is beyond me. Maybe they're having a laugh!

fatbusdriver 15th May 2013 12:02

This is the wording:


"... I am therefore pleased to announce the company has approved a 3.5%
increase which includes a step increase fo all eligible flight crew (those who
have been employed on or before 31st December 2012 and who are below top of
scale) as well as an adjustment to the salary step with effect from 1st May
2013.
Take out the situff in brackets what do you get???

"... I am therefore pleased to announce the company has approved a 3.5%
increase which includes a step increase fo all eligible flight crew as well as an adjustment to the salary step with effect from 1st May 2013.

This looks like 3.5% to me! Keep up you hard work guys! Itīs really worth it!

Very p***** o**!!:mad:

Hello tomorrow

fatbusdriver 15th May 2013 12:04

Itīs not reflected in HR yet. I think they are confused too! :E

three eighty 15th May 2013 12:18

So Now the Pay Review....
 
It's not out on our contract adjustments yet and until such time it will remain a mystery to all of us unless the author of the letter sends out clarification.

disconnected 15th May 2013 12:22

Deliberately misleading is how I read the letter.

It is a 0.5% increase to the salary scales and everyone goes up a step (except those on the top step who have now had a 0.5% increase in the last 2 years!)

Why it cannot be simply written to be specific is beyond me. He would get a 1 for COMM.

A certain rot seems to have set in here. They are deliberately lowering salaries. Time to cast eyes towards other jobs. We have time, but the writing is on the wall.

As for the "extra mile".....

VLS with ice 15th May 2013 12:27

Yearly inflation here must be higher than that, so we just took a pay cut....

falconeasydriver 15th May 2013 12:31

Just read it, none the wiser, will wait till the contract letter comes through, I read it as 0.5% to the steps and a move up to the next step.

BigGeordie 15th May 2013 12:33

I agree with disconnected (which is exactly how I feel). We are looking at a deliberate squeeze on terms and conditions as the company finds out how far it can go without affecting recruitment and retention too much. Just look at how well rewarded the people who have been here the longest have been- 0.5% in two years!

Make the most of it, you will never be as well paid (in real terms) in this company as you are now. Every year you will find your salary will buy a little less and you will work a little harder.

White Knight 15th May 2013 12:37

Well I'm reading it as 3.5% AND the salary step (unless you're stuck at the top of course!!!

lfrk 15th May 2013 12:41

I think fatbusdriver is our winner today! you have just unlocked it!

If our great management is reading this topic they must have a great laught!

My guess ; done on purpose...

Mister Warning 15th May 2013 12:42

Can someone please just copy and paste the letter so we can all share in the joke!

HighLow 15th May 2013 12:42

Grammar Lessons Required ASAP !!
 
6.5% (3.5% plus a step of 3%) -
People are down , Morale at an all time low !
but people willing to keep the head down and work through it

3.5% (0.5% pay increase) -
An Absolute Insult !
Step + 0.5%, uproot a family for that???



PA in Dubai now can earn 30,000 AED per month,
a bit of perspective anyone?

emratty 15th May 2013 12:46

Unbelievable! Has Ed returned it's the sort of letter he used to send out. I read it as 6.5 percent hopefully some clarity will be forthcoming.....

Craggenmore 15th May 2013 12:51

surely there's a paragraph missing!

HighLow, forget being a PA in Dubai, move from Super Jumbo's to Super yatchts. Top salaries around $240,000

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Cloud Bunny 15th May 2013 12:53

Word from HR (buddy just came from wash up) is its 3.5%. But apparently that ascertion wasn't totally convincing!! So anyone's guess!!
:ugh:
Re-reading the email though I make it 3.5%. I guess we will see when the contract adjustments are done.

White Knight 15th May 2013 12:55

It may be signed by our esteemed boss; but would have been written by - funnily enough, a PA - for whom English is undoubtedly not a first language!

White Knight 15th May 2013 12:56


Originally Posted by cloud bunny
Word from HR (buddy just came from wash up) is its 3.5%. But apparently that ascertion wasn't totally convincing!! So anyone's guess!!

So why bother posting this non information:ugh::hmm:

EK_Desert_Slave 15th May 2013 13:00

I was hopeful of 6.5% initially, but the more I read the email the more it becomes clear that it is only 3.5%. The key words in the email are "WHICH INCLUDES". It says "an increase of 3.5% WHICH INCLUDES a step increase AND an adjustment to the salary step (0.5%). Thanks for your generosity Emirates...that means that other than the step I get an extra 134 dirhams per month!!!! Woohoo!! :yuk:

EK_Desert_Slave 15th May 2013 13:06

Personally I find the extra 0.5% more insulting than if they had just given the basic 3% step. Its as if they are saying, "We know that you deserve more than the step, so here is .5%". How stupid do they think we are honestly?? Why not just throw in a McDonald's happy meal gift certificate and call that our "raise"...

Dropp the Pilot 15th May 2013 13:13

If you are relatively new to the company you may want to savour what the future holds: the most senior 200 or so pilots in the company are now making 0.5% more than they were two years ago

This is the regional notion of how one treats the "valued" employees.

There is a nice set of brackets there. If you apply to the airline with too little experience you get a PFO letter. If you eventually get hired but stay too long you get a PFO pay adjustment.

Wilya 15th May 2013 13:22

0.5% (can you even call that an increase:ugh:)

That is what you call "adding insult to injury":mad:

SOPS 15th May 2013 13:25

I have refrained from up to now... But they are seriously taking the p.., all goodwill just gone

Eric Carr 15th May 2013 13:30

Well if the total is 3,5 percent woulden't that make the increase something like 0,48 for the newbies and the oldies....

BongleBear 15th May 2013 13:35

I can't see how this can mean 6.5%. It says 3.5% includes the step for those who are eligible.

3% step plus the 0.5% raise.

If you joined after December 2012 you get +0.5%.

Why they word all letters like it's been put through google translate is beyond me

Wrist shot 15th May 2013 13:39

0.5%
 
Guys, sorry to inform you all , it's a pay rise of Exactly 0.5 %.
I Confirmed if with HR.

Sorry to say the least .

clear to land 15th May 2013 13:40

Isn't it amazing that someone who holds a DSVP position, and for whom English is their first language, can't send basic information to the pilot body without it being subject to various interpretation!! This reflects incredibly negatively on the said individuals ability to communicate. I wonder whether he will care ?

fringhtok 15th May 2013 13:41

Finally received the email. Not sure what some of you were reading, it's not the best writing but it's clearly 3.5% total. "..company has approved a 3.5% increase which INCLUDES (emphasis mine) a step increase.

Nothing in this place matters other than supply and demand. Their thinking is that the top 200 guys either have no place to go or don't want to leave. There are enough in the queue to ensure new classes are filled this year. Therefore, no need for an increase in real wages. The rest of us will tread water for another year and hope for a morsel next year........

BongleBear 15th May 2013 13:42

Accommodation allowance...
 
The new joiners have recently been told that accommodation allowance is going up to 180,000/200,000 (FO/Capt). If the recruitment/new joiners team are saying this then surely there has to be even a hint of truth in it?!

Anyone heard about it? I thought it would be mentioned in the same email as the pay decrease one we got today.


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