QR finally pay rise !
 

After long time waiting those are the numbers:

Basic= 0
Hours =0
School fee allowance=0
Housing allowance=0
Proft share=0
Leave encashment=0

After a profitable year announce on news of 250+ millon $ and buying 33% of Cargolux , stimate another 153+ millon $, this is what we deserve.

In other hand :
Inflation = 26% per year
School rise fee 10% per year

And Management keap cheating everybody with promises , shame on you for this dirty job!
We are making less than a low cost carrier , so let keap them making more ad more money from our hard work .:ok:

And welcome new joiners , don't believe on people without self respect.

Viewpoint
Lets hope new joiners looking at QR and EY now see the truth and head down the road to EK if they are so keen on the middle east, at least they give a bonus (12 weeks) and a payrise ( 8% and I believe approx 6-8 months back they got another 6% payrise) not sure on the last.

Anyone joining QR and EY under the current management don't say you were never warned.

AUH

thanks for info

Very sad , more than 210 views and only 3 replys, seems that pilots in Qr are very happy with their salarys and conditions.

auh_to_auh : seems we are little out of the loop or we work for different company.:ugh:

BB
Same old play the so called the "carrot and the stick":}
I will believe our beloved OOps managment :mad: when I see the MONEY in the Bank.

Fly high and fast

Sorry Beyblade but you the wrong one:

I hear that FLT OPS:mad: MNG, were afraid to open their mouth, after the announcement of no pay rise, no profit share, nothing until IPO launch, may be in 2012 or 2013, and also I hear that actually the B777 TRES are fighting to move to B787, typical QR pilot attitude.:ok:

Just to add my own little piece of camel dung to the fire...Latest Email from our cost cutting management regarding how we are now REQUIRED BY THE COMPANY to have multiple exit visas for their convenience to use E-Gates but the "Burden" of payment is still ours...

Nice to pay the company money to make their own lives easier...Total Sh*t

dont want to be a spoil sport but what i have heard from some of fellow country man is that pay rise is coming next month backdated from april 2011...3% increment per year of service,housing maintain,education increased to 80k....but this was till 15 guys resigned last week from 320...(65 guys + 15 = 80 guys in 5 months )
now the pay rise is gone for nego again for the betterment and would surely be more than the 3 % per year...lets give another month as traditionally..any pay rise in qr has only came on jun/july....backdated always of course.......my best judgement would be its goin to be good..now before anyone bashes..its only my opinion...i am giving till end jun...otherwise many other 320 jobs around..guess what china is offering almost usd 15000 rite now....indigo usd 10000 even srilanka almost usd 10000...looks like good year for 320/330 pilots..

Despite all EK is today versus the past, EK! EK! EK!

Indianace:

Sorry but 3% It's what we currently have, did your "friends"told you about the profit share, leave encashment?. Try againg.
You are not spoiling anything , you are free to believe what you want, and YES also low cost carriers are paying more than QR.

I have to say when it involves QR and pay rise I am a sceptic...... I am sorry guys I don't think it's going to get better anytime in the near to medium term.

Jeez, and I thought that EK management were a bunch of (naughty word deleted! For what it's worth you guys have our sympathies. When will these people ever get it:mad:

QR finally pay rise !
 

MULTIPLE EXIT PERMITS
In reference to mandatory multiple exit permits, the attached form is required to be filled out and submitted to your respective Fleet Coordinators, for obtaining the same. Those already in possession of a multiple exit permit are requested to ensure that the same is valid before going on leave. Pilots are requested to allow at least 3 days processing time, after which the collection and payment for the multiple exit permit can be done at Villa Number 21 behind QR Tower by staff.

Kindly note that the cost for multiple exit permitis to be borne by staff as per Management directive. This process will continue until otherwise notified.



500 Riyal :mad:

Com'on ladies/gents don't complain..:
We already have in Q.R (the best airline in qatar!), a generous Bonus every year :E rewarding crew for their hard work.., a lovley pension plan is waiting for us the day we retire from Q.R :E, a impressive 3% annual increase on the basic only and for the first five years of seniority only in your respective grade! :E A lovely work environment....
No ladies/gents do you really think we still need an increase of top of all those benefits we already receive from QR.!!??:E

Blacksteel;
I may be wrong but i think you have to pay as well...To CANCEL your multy- exit permit once you resign!!
Wondering in how many places in the world you have to pay to be able to exit the country!??:ugh:

spamcandriver..you are absolutely right..been hearing this since 2 yrs ago but 2 yrs ago the world had surplus pilots with many closedown but today different story altogether..open any recruitment agency and at least 20 jobs avail...320/330/340/777..( fleet qr has and everyone else wants this rated pilots)..2 yrs ago many application to qr but now hardly any thats worth it..only low time pilots application they are receiving...( this is from recruitment dept itself).
viewpoint...about bonus..well its entirely up to the company..the company is not obligated to render us any but any given its a goodwill..ofcourse i need the money but its not contractual...just for hope..2009/2010 qr made 205 mil profit and we got 1 week..2010/2011 qr made 250 mil profit..so my personal opinion we can expect more than 1 week..maybe 2-3 weeks...its nothing compared to ek...but free money..why not..as for leave encashment..if u have excess backlog more than 21 days..u can encash the excess only but your chief pilot/fleet manager must give the approval...write in to them and see what happens..otherwise write to cpf..or evpo....
loc22550...dont start bashing...qr is still growing..many new orders and many new planes flying this way..recruitment knows that all this need to be manned and current market is not supporting them in terms of manpower..something would be done soon...even ek is short..dec ek would start soon if they cant find enough fo's...ek's recruitment next week is at europe..milan,rome etc....as for ey..many resignation as well..many goin to air asia..even their 340 captains are leaving for air asia x..although the salary is smaller...
looks like the good time for pilots worldwide has just started and it will only get better ( if there is no war,volcanic or disease anywhere)...
happy flying fellow pilots in qr and hope for the best as hope is only we have....

How To Ask For A Pay Rise
newday knows the best way:
"There is no secret. I have a few friends(Captains) A320 and they are intelligent enough to understand the way QA operate. Late evening/early morning departures/arrival -everybody knows why.
They understand they will not stay forever on A320 due to huge numbers of 777,350 on order. They do not plan to leave!
Pilots who can not cope with that kind of schedule leave. And so what?
Somebody who has energy and positive thinking, willing to work hard and patience, will join. Good for QA! I only want to encourage this kind of pilots to come, they will be happy.

PS. As long as schedule is legal according CAA, I do not see reason for complain. I know some airlines use pilots much more and some operates contrary to CAA duty time regulations!"





Newday. Your problem is lack of intelligence :}

Blacksteel7:

You can't go and pay your mortgage or your son's school fees with your A330 or B 777 type?, Here all the pilot have the same salary despite the fleet they are.
Your A320 friends have been waiting 4+ year for a flet tranfer since we don't have senority.( DEC B777, and A330).

There is not NEWDAY on this post, and lack on intelligence , you must be kidding, from what planet are you coming ? jajaja.

PS. As long as schedule is legal according CAA

Who monitor who?, we all now , don't be silly.:=

For those 320 or 330 wiating to transfer to 777, you can forget this year, there will be only 3 coming this year and all the slots are for new joiner.
This is how QR treat seniority.
Seniority in QR = Shxt:ugh:

What about transfer from A-320 to A-330...?:uhoh:
-As far as i known Today, upgrades from right to left on 330 are still going on!!!:ugh::ugh::ugh:
-S/O are still put on A-330!!!:ugh::ugh::ugh:

for info only:

LOW COST air asia,malaysia a320 job capt salary: basic rm13000,per hour rm195,per sector rm100..tax only on basic ..take home after tax rm30000-34000
(usd 10000-11500)--cost of living half of doha---RECRUITING(type rating provided)

LOW COST tiger airways,singapore a320 job capt salary total sgd203,500 for 950 hours per year..about sgd17000 p/month..take home after tax about 14500.( usd 12000)--cost of living same like doha---RECRUITING(need to pay for type rating if not rated)

CARGO singapore airline cargo,singapore 747c capt job,basic sgd10,000,per hour sgd55,housing sgd3900,education sgd2000(for 2 kids),contact 3yrs,total for 60hrs--sgd19200--after tax about sgd15000-sgd17000.(usd12000-14000)--cost of living same like doha--RECRUITING
(type rating provided)

this info is from a friend for info only.thanks.

On top of those take home figures, these 3 airlines (airasia,tiger & singcargo) also hav mandatory provident fund..thats 25% monthly saving from the basic salary/flt allowance where you'll contribute 10% and company 15% :ok:

I would not be too sure about the above details on retirement funds while being on a ''temporary contract''!

New policy
 

NEW POLICY

Dress Code:
1) You are advised to come to work dressed according to your salary.

2) If we see you wearing Prada shoes and carrying a Gucci bag, we will
assume you are doing well financially and therefore do not need a raise.

3) If you dress poorly, you need to learn to manage your money better, so
that you may buy nicer clothes, and therefore you do not need a raise.

4) If you dress just right, you are right where you need to be and therefore
you do not need a raise.

Sick Days:
We will no longer accept a doctor's statement as proof of sickness. If you
are able to go to the doctor, you are able to come to work.

In both Malaysia and Singapore, as long as you are being employed in private sector including alrlines you will have provident fund. Its a law and it is mandatory. :)

I assume that 's tongue in cheek, or do you now believe we are genuinely getting a raise?

viewpoint please, Check this thread:
 

"Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)" pg 133
The statement there belongs to Newday. :ok:

BS,
You smoke shisha to much with your boyfriends, anyway, give us some break:}

DA
 

I used to smoke shisha with your mother. I missed her :mad:

We are NOT getting a payrise this year. If we were it would have come allready!!!:yuk:

Dear Fubaliera
Why people want to have sex in the aircraft's toilet? It stincks and lack of space, I would prefered to have it in Crew bunk.
Next time if you are on my flight, I will let you use crew bunk and I will give you the code to access to the bunk.:cool:

qr n
 

i just got into QR , and i will begin line training in july. to work for a 5 star airline with the sallary they offers is not good at all. in my homecountry norway, working for a lowcost carrier is much better, they earn around 17000 dollars a month, and still china offers better sallary.

The QR system needs a revolution to make the pilots happy. QR is like a kindergarden, u learn there, and once u have the knowledge u go to others! , but still qr is good airline but the country sucks bigtime.

TcasII..Fubaliera mentioned the Bathroom(Ek A-380 do have)..not the toilet!
At least its a little bit more Stylish..:ooh:

Damn now people (Dnomyer) start complaining even they haven't started their training yet...thinks are not moving in the right direction here...

loc,

I don't want to pick on anyone but I wouldn't pay too much attention to what dnomyer says. He seems to have a lot of "opinions". Including this from another thread:

so...ummm....yeah. Draw your own conclusions on that one.

yeah
 

i have many opinions, if u have something against it write a message to me. atleast im happy with my carreer so far. and ask someone who didnt write atleast 10 hours extra in their logbooks during their 2 year studies. and im new at this forum so i like to write what i think. im 21 years old, i passed QR interview, and not many does.

QR
 

i have alot of information about QR so far, the sallary they offers is really not good. so u guys just try to get into Qatar aswell, and u will get more and more information on mail from them. working as a second officer with 3000 dollars a month. and no pension plans, and for me who is norwegian its not easy aswell. i need to pay 36% percent taxes to my government. 3000x0.36=not much left :/

Why would you pay taxes in Norway, since you are working and living abroad? It doesn't make sense!

tax
 

since i have no pension plans in QR, and for me paying taxex to norway will provide me with free lifeinsurance , free travel insurance, insurance from my mac to my shoe incase it will get stolen. and each summer from june , i will get 10% of it back in vacation money. and if i get injured in my work or other stuff, they will pay me the average sallary i will have in QR until i get job again. and because of our high taxes in norway i got my jaa conversion for free, aswell as the mcc.

dnomyer,

You appear to admit corrupting your log book and almost condone it as an acceptable part of your '2 year studies' , whatever that means.

Just ONE false entry into your logbook corrupts the integrity of the remainder of your flying career.

Surely I am not the only one left who logs purely what I fly? At least I know that every hour I have flown military/civilian is correct.

Shame on you my friend, I will certainly be keeping an eye out for cocksure young Norwegians over the next few months!!

Shifty

oh shifty
 

oh, its a big deal. i had 991 hours, and i made it 1000, on flights i were backseat i logged it as flying hour, and under faa regulations u can log those hours.. and shame on u, i didnt do it in jaa country. i had 14 hours of flying in oslo once i passed my cpl/me. i dont care either, i got my job quickly and didnt stress about it like others do. and soon i will be on a330 so im proud of myself, and please try to find a captain or fo today who didnt fake any hours, i can promise u that u need to look for a long time. or maybe im just stupid who admits everything and dont look back. :) but one thing is sure, once i begin to fly jet i wont do anything illegal.

sure be carefull about the norwegians, they will probably land a job more quickly than others. and we dont have any degrees before we start the pilot study, and its normal to see a 21 year norwegian flying a jet all over europe and many in Qatar aswell.

Dnomyer,

Why don't you just log all your hours as passenger aswell? Did you claim your hours as a pax when you came over for the interview?

I have absolutely no issues with you landing a job with QR, or being 21, or in fact for hailing from Norway- I DO have issues with anyone falsely claiming hours, it shows a lack of honesty and integrity. You cannot change what you have done so don't try and label your fellow pilots as having done the same.

ps: I also left school with no quals and was flying at a similar age to you-you are nothing special and neither am I, but at least I am honest despite what my 'nickname' may suggest.