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flightknight 15th Feb 2011 13:46

Middle East Unrest !!!
 
Has any of you expats been affected by the recent unrest in the middle east and do you see a future for us expats regarding stability and security for our families staying in the middle east.

Landflap 15th Feb 2011 14:30

Flightnight
 
Way back in '78, my Dad was extremely prosperous & wealthy inTehran. I expressed concern at developments which he dismissed as a "few little skirmishes in the Villages" ! The rest is history. The Captain of the RAF Hercules which airlifted him & others out of there broke the icey silence after an hour or so by saying, something like.."Ladies & Gentlemen, we have just crossed the Iranian Border. If you would like to reset your watches, wind them BACK about 2000 years.

I wish nothing but prosperity but mainly, safety to all my friends & colleagues who have decided to remain in the Middle East. I fear for those who are unable to find safer havens. The wake up call has just gone off.

Captain Dart 16th Feb 2011 02:40

I think what the Captain really meant to say was...

slowjet 16th Feb 2011 10:47

A380
 
You remind me of the Captain of the Titanic who turned to his First Officer and said; "What f.....g iceberg ?" !!

golfwidower 16th Feb 2011 18:49

Question is what will happen if Saudi's east coast joins forces with its brethren in
 
Don't worry, they've closed the causeway

imr 17th Feb 2011 03:40

Very interesting regarding the causeway closure.

Back in the mid/late '90s when there was a spurt of unrest in Bahrain the Saudis basically told their brotherly neighbors 'get it under control of we will.' (need to look up my source for the precise details)

In light of the violence of the past few hours I'm sure Riyadh has issued a similar decree.

confusedcanuck 17th Feb 2011 06:32

From what I hear protesters are mostly disgruntled Gulf Air Pilots and Cabin Crew, police and army sent in at SMs request. :p

non0 17th Feb 2011 08:26

Getting really ugly there

What are the chances of this protest to get Saudia, Qatar and UAE?

Jet II 17th Feb 2011 09:07


Originally Posted by non0 (Post 6252022)

What are the chances of this protest to get Saudia, Qatar and UAE?

Well as regards the UAE - I'm not sure the locals are that energetic.... :ouch:

sirwa69 17th Feb 2011 10:19

Time to raise the Amwaj drawbridge :p
Mind you we might need to let it down on Saturday to let the booze delivery trucks in :E Hic!

sirwa69 17th Feb 2011 10:24

What's pissing me off is all these western journalists who in their desperate attempt to link this to Cairo are calling it Pearl Square.

It's Pearl (or Lulu) Roundabout not a f@#king square.

:mad::mad::mad:

Farrell 17th Feb 2011 10:34

No worries here.

Piss up and brewery spring to mind!

OMDB-PiLoT 17th Feb 2011 10:35

Locals in UAE have it all on silver platter! They don't need any revolution here. But ya, if the remaining non-local 80% population come out, there's going to be a LOT of chaos for sure. Imagine democracy in UAE - a South Indian as your president with Pakistani ministers in the parliament. Filipinos will still be at cashiers though. :}

Farrell 17th Feb 2011 10:38


Filipinos will still be at cashiers though
Ah yes! The Bakala Brigade!

"Hello Sirrrrrrrrrrr. I'm sorrrrrrry sirrrrrrrrrrr."

OMDB-PiLoT 17th Feb 2011 10:41


Ah yes! The Bakala Brigade!

"Hello Sirrrrrrrrrrr. I'm sorrrrrrry sirrrrrrrrrrr."
"That will be Phipe Dirhams and Phipty Phils Maam"

Farrell 17th Feb 2011 10:45

You have to pity them! - 1200 a month

The DXB crowd seem to have it slightly better than here in MCT.

flightknight 18th Feb 2011 04:01

Just heared that the protests are spreading across the bridge from Bahrain..is it true ?

ManaAdaSystem 18th Feb 2011 21:17

Shooting at people with machine guns from helicopters... Put to rest, yes, you could call it that.

I never thought the people of Bahrain would start to demonstrate. Even the women are out in the streets shouting: Down with Khalifa!
Now, I will not be surprised if the same happens in Qatar, UAE and Oman.

Loads will certainly not increase because of this. Close your eyes if you want to, but this could turn ugly very fast.

Mr.Bloggs 18th Feb 2011 21:24

Hope against hope
 
It is not about to die down. Forget "loads", the problem is how this affects the West, which will impact directly on the oil-producers/oil beneficiaries.

IMHO I fear the unfolding drama is not good news for most in the short-term. But maybe, just maybe, the future will be brighter with some form of freedom for the Arabs. As for the Gulf States airlines, it is unlikely that their growth projections will be realised. EK, EY, QR are built on "bubbles", which is hardly a new thing in economic history.

Gulfstreamaviator 19th Feb 2011 02:15

street killings by troops
 
BBC, CNN showing U tube videos of killing of peaceful protestors in Bahrain.

glf

loc22550 19th Feb 2011 03:51

I guess peaceful people who demonstrate for more justice,democracy in this part of he world It's considered as a security threat...:uhoh:
I'm afraid that the authorities by acting like that have just put oil on fire...

flightknight 19th Feb 2011 13:55

Kuwait
 
Protests have already started in
kuwait.

Apache702 20th Feb 2011 03:36

news and comments
 
The Pilot Network | Connecting the Aviation People

Apache702 20th Feb 2011 03:42

Place your vote

Bahrain Uprising

flightknight 20th Feb 2011 15:08

Dubai unrest ?

nolimitholdem 20th Feb 2011 16:52

Unrest?! What unrest? No, everything's fine. Really.


White Knight 21st Feb 2011 03:41

There's a good reason that land in Barsha is given away for building on. And jobs in banks for the boys. I still don't see Dubai or UAE in that Al Jazeera pic there NLH. It does make interesting reading though:ok:

Why would you protest when you can afford a Ferrari at age 20:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Marooned 21st Feb 2011 04:12

Only that the 20 year old in the Ferrari is probably a Sunni. In Egypt we witnessed the masses more or less united against a common foe. In Bahrain it is the inequalities between Sunni and Shia which ignited the flame.

I don't believe there is enough kindling here to cause a flame but there still discrimination between the two.

White Knight 21st Feb 2011 04:18

Indeed. The ruling families here are Sunni as are the majority of Emiratis, so not likely to be an issue as you rightly point out.
Any aggro is likely to come from 'foriegn workers' who will just be booted out!

repapips 21st Feb 2011 06:02


OMDB-PiLoT Locals in UAE have it all on silver platter! They don't need any revolution here. But ya, if the remaining non-local 80% population come out, there's going to be a LOT of chaos for sure. Imagine democracy in UAE - a South Indian as your president with Pakistani ministers in the parliament. Filipinos will still be at cashiers though.
OMDB-PiLoT, I'm sure you're not an Indian, nor a Pakistani, nor a Filipino let alone an Emirati, but wherever you come from i suggest that you go back there. Your racist remarks don't have a place here!
I'm sure these Asians are more intelligent than you could ever be! You're just lucky you have white skin or a passport worshipped by Arabs. If these Asians had the same and you all stood before an interview panel, I'm sure you'll be the first to be sent home!
That goes to you too, Farrell! :yuk:

Marooned 21st Feb 2011 06:19

Contacted; The oil wealth that is controlled by AUH is theirs, under their soil. Dubai gets to control what wealth it gets from it's much smaller oil and gas reserves.

The UAE is a federation with the central government in Abu Dhabi but with each emirate having independence in their internal affairs and control of their assets.

non0 21st Feb 2011 09:59


I think that a popular revolution is unlikely.
The UAE governments are savvy enough to recognise which way the wind is blowing and political evolution will occur. It is already happening in a incremental way: gulfnews : Members applaud gradual changes in poll process
I wouldn't be surprised if there is much debate going on amongst the Emiratis.
Freedom of political discussion on TV, Radio and newspapers would help a lot.
@contacted
it looks like you have a positive grasp on UAE, if you know, can you say the same for Qatar?

superspotter 21st Feb 2011 12:15


Dubai has tried to build an economy independant of Oil Revenue (ie. not in Abu Dhabis pocket)
Despite obvious mistakes, has been quite successful.
LMAO!!
Quite successful in that it had to turn to Abu to bail it out?? Yes, quite successful :D

PIPE RIDER 21st Feb 2011 12:25

Qatar... well recently I heard the following:

1-Qataris think Democracy is for poor people
2-To protest do you need to get out of the Land Cruiser?
3-Can the protest area be Shaded with A/C and Shisha?
4-How much should we pay to every Indian who will protest in our behalf?
5-Can we have the protest between 9 pm and midnight?
6-any gifts or prize for those who attend?

if protest are a success and democracy comes can we have the world cup earlier than 2022??

non0 21st Feb 2011 13:59

@contacted, thanks ... so according to what you know it looks like all the expats are pretty safe in the QR arena!


Qatar... well recently I heard the following:

1-Qataris think Democracy is for poor people
2-To protest do you need to get out of the Land Cruiser?
3-Can the protest area be Shaded with A/C and Shisha?
4-How much should we pay to every Indian who will protest in our behalf?
5-Can we have the protest between 9 pm and midnight?
6-any gifts or prize for those who attend?

if protest are a success and democracy comes can we have the world cup earlier than 2022??

those characteristics in addition to a freakishly big belly, the smart-phone head set in their right ear while drinking a spice-latte at Starbucks are actually a very good sign of democracy!

Alessandra 21st Feb 2011 14:27

haha. the same in Oman.
there was a demonstration the other day, totally pathetic. according to local newspaper> "as many as 300 citizens have gathered and walked ALMOST 200m carrying signs "we love you sultan, but give us more well paid jobs"
needless to say i ALMOST pissed myself laughing when reading it...

ByeByeDubai 21st Feb 2011 17:47

This is just the beginning
 
The unrest will spread to many countries. It is inevitable. Only the timelines are in question.

Our economy is based on depletion of resources not their protection. Our monetary system is based on debt. Profit is maximised at the expense of other humans. The most successful managers are those who are in fact mentally deficient. The best lack the empathy prevalent in most human beings, thereby making them the most efficient at maximising profit as the consequences to others are transparent and irrelevant to this missing function of their abnormal brains.

See:

YouTube - ZEITGEIST: MOVING FORWARD | OFFICIAL RELEASE | 2011

The world revolution begins. It will be bloody. This is only the beginning. Greed and gross inequality will force millions into the streets in countries all over the globe. Those addicted to power and money will not give it away without considerable bloodshed.

Wannabe Flyer 22nd Feb 2011 03:45

These Arabs should have taken lessons from the Chinese on how to suppress these damn infidels asking for political freedom...........:mad::mad::mad:....How stupid are they......:ok: All is not lost they can outsource to the Chinese still.........HU is listening. :}

Pitch Up Authority 22nd Feb 2011 03:58

The Chinese are having the biggest problem in the world right now.

Although the economy is booming many Chinese are hungry and want to have a piece of the cake.

Before there was nothing to linger for, today there is.


Tension is the result of the gap between the have not and the have it all ad it a challenge to keep the balance right.

Gulfstreamaviator 22nd Feb 2011 03:58

Chinese already taking over UAE
 
With the down turn, the Indians, who populated the building sites, have been reducing in numbers, and the Chinese slowly taking over.

Does any one have statistics to show the number of Chinese workers, and Chinese firms in UAE.

Glf


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