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boocs 29th Dec 2010 11:25

EK can't be that bad.... a few guys have left Dragon recently for greener, (or is that sandier) pastures....

b.

Murrenfan 29th Dec 2010 13:51

Easy,

Don't show up for your EK training with this attitude. On such an OIC culture, your chances of survival are slim.

Mfan

buckdanny 29th Dec 2010 15:00

Hi everyone,

I am invited to the 3 day interview process in Dubai and looking for info. I found this thread, and found some very good information in it.

I can't however find any info about what it's like at EK for the spouses. I got married 6 months ago, and my wife has an excellent job here in the US (she's a microbiologist). Can women easily find specialized work in Dubai?

For me career (and experience) wise the 3 years at EK would be phenomenal, however I have to take into account our life as a couple. If she's going to leave a great career to be bored at home while I'm at work, I would rather stay in the US.

Any inputs on what it's like for your spouses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

ManaAdaSystem 29th Dec 2010 16:47


my wife has an excellent job here in the US (she's a microbiologist). Can women easily find specialized work in Dubai?

I'm no expert, but generally the Middle Eastern countries welcome specialists with open arms. Two areas where there seem to be a general lack of personnel are medicine and schools (teachers). She should use whatever channels she has to check out different options, maybe a trip to DXB to knock on some doors before you decide to move? It will give you both a chance to check out DXB as well.

Murrenfan 29th Dec 2010 16:56

Easy,

Your attitude is not offensive to me. That was just an advice for your training with EK. You being banned says it all.

Good luck with your choice

Mfan

troff 29th Dec 2010 17:31

Moderator!
 
This thread is becoming a flamer.

km5 29th Dec 2010 17:46

I like Dubai! The sun is shining, the cars are cheep and the flying is good. Its a lot of cash compared to my last job and on the whole the cost of living is not really that high when you consider the kind of luxury you can live in here.:ok:

White Knight 29th Dec 2010 17:55


Originally Posted by sittingidly
naturally, if you are happy or unhappy, you will be more likely topost on this site to either incourage or discourage others from joining. so consider the fact that many pilots who were unhappy about EK, have left and no longer post here. So why is there an ever increasiung amount of negative posts about the lifestyle here?

Well, of the 2550 odd pilots at EK I only see the same few faces here SI...

But then again I must be A) Office type or B) Justifying my move here (Alconguin Crusader)...

FYI neither - A) an office just doesn't 'fly' that well with me if you'll pardon the pun and B) how I run my life is up to me - I'll respect your POV AC but you are being a bit of a **** (c something t) by trying to tell ME how to live MY life:hmm::hmm:

You all who moan show us somewhere currently BETTER:D Could it be LCC in Europe running 4 sectors of slot-delays and de-icing? Or could it be a US 'major' and sit a reserve line on a DC9 for 5 years? (that would be the pits!!!!)

Indeed, things here could be better. We have been screwed totally with the overtime as Don says:mad: Leave issues, days off in a row, DEWA (although I haven't yet talked to anyone who's paid towards a big bill) - but you have to measure this against what you'll find elsewhere. And I respectfully submit that that will be;

SAME SAME BUT DIFFERENT - but from the bottom of a new seniority list:D

40&80 29th Dec 2010 18:29

Basically over the years I observed only the money numbers change in Gulf based Airlines.
The problems remain the same... there is no intention or inclination or pressure on or for management to even attempt to fix any problem staff related.
If you are a bachelor with nobody expecting a slice of your paycheck back home you can save a serious wad of money over the years... that is if you decide to live as cheaply as possible and try hard to invest your excess cash each month.
Married, plus wife not working...plus a few kids...divorce...new wife...kiss your sorry tail goodbye...you will then have to fly till you drop...and thus compromised be forced keep your mouth shut...or worse still... blow your brains out and join the management team!

McGreaser 29th Dec 2010 18:34

Generally NOBODY is allowed to be happy (if you go by what you read on Pprune) in EK unless they are

1. locals
2. Africans
3. Asians
4. South Americans

The "others" are "supposed" to be unhappy and grumpy because they come from better countries. So no matter how much the "others" try to say how happy they are, the "Pprune verdict" is they're are crazy, desperate, or it's a matter of time before they are unhappy. The little time l have flown in EK, the guys l have flown with guys/girls who are not from number 2,3 or 4 have been happy. Family is happy, wife is happy.....well, husband becomes happy by default. I think it's more to do with swim with the current not coz you are dead, but coz they have adapted and made the best of it.

Am happy here simply because am making the best of my surroundings. I know my limits in U.A.E and in EK. Never try to go beyond the limits because there's always sumbody to slap you into line usually with dire conseqencies. Dubai has it's ups and downs but so does every other place in the world.

To anybody who wants to take the plunge and head over to the sandpit......come with an open mind, adapt, keep your head down, don't think you know better than the locals or the guys who have been here for many years, humble yourself and "just smile and wave..." ! And you will be fine.

That doesn't mean bend over and pick up the soap when you in the sandpit....just speak softly and carry and a big stick:p

moggiee 30th Dec 2010 05:47

Just out of interest (as a non-EK person) what's the starting pay for an EK FO?

sheikmyarse 30th Dec 2010 10:26

"To anybody who wants to take the plunge and head over to the sandpit......come with an open mind, adapt, keep your head down, don't think you know better than the locals or the guys who have been here for many years, humble yourself and "just smile and wave..." ! And you will be fine".

I find it quite amusing. Where is your dignity mate? Keep your head down and keep smiling and waiving?? At times I cannot believe what I read.
You are supposed to have in your hands the life of hundreds of people?
Ah no..sorry in EK you are remotely controlled from the ground... and I see why.

IXNAT 30th Dec 2010 10:46

Sheik, I thought the same when I read that thread. I hope he meant, it is usless to fight what you can't change. LR3....right on the money. What many Americans fail to realise, is many with a JAR license can find a DEC position at the likes of Easy, Ryan, Air Berlin etc., so it makes it easier to come here and then return in a few years. But in the US, you will start again at the bottom if things don't work here. Had a mate came here as a DEC about 5 years ago from Air Berlin. After 3 years, returned to Air Berlin as a Captain. Try that if you're from the US. Take heed. So when you have "insurance" of returning to a left seat, it makes it easier to put up with a full bucket here. Additionally, a lot easier to run back and forth to Europe when it's only 5-7 hours of flight compared with 13-16 hours to either the US or Oz.

nolimitholdem 30th Dec 2010 16:50

It's not hard for any country to seem more advanced than a place that says it's ok to beat your wife as long as you don't leave a mark. To randomly name one of about, oh, a billion examples of the hate and barbarism that typify the region.

And how come the umm...like, two, people that constantly defend the place seem to be from the same country...? No wonder the UAE seems good...:zzz:

What's The Point Of Australia?

White Knight 30th Dec 2010 19:58

Ha Nolimitholdem - I certainly don't feel sorry for a country that tries to constantly turn it's back on it's 'MOTHER'-country... As you know, all of the republican referendums have failed :p:p

All this argument (cricket speaking) about colonials in the England team makes me wet my little panties with laughter:{ Old Andy Symonds - the hero of Orstralia what was born in ENGLAND:} Excuse me whilst I choke on my morning porridge:D:D:D:D And the Aussies are calling for Usman to join the batting order hahahaha - this is Usman from Pakistan!!!!!

You are a bunch of bad losers, no grace, no tact - just d1cks who also do stupid and long-winded pointless briefings:E

Down and out with you Pr1cky Runting:ok::ok::ok:

Oh heck - what was this thread about:O:O

Sir Donald 30th Dec 2010 21:56

Sorry to intrude on your party Nolim and supercilious Whitekinght, but
can you enlighten us on how many kids die in the UK thanks to their very modern ways(home office data)

The Aussies might have lost the ashes but haven't lost their dignity and do speak up regardless of the circumstances. Take heed from Joe from J*star.

If only pommy pilots could find the same courage instead of volunteering to be cabin crew in the name of bonuses, maybe our trade would be in a better shape today!

Does anyone like EK?The pomms clearly do.

ManaAdaSystem 30th Dec 2010 22:34

Me think they banned the wrong person! Or maybe PPRUNE ME is ME in miniature?

Somebody knows somebody and lets teach this rookie a lesson? Like the little supermen occupying different offices, CP's, FC's, and suddenly they can't stop using all that power. After all, there is nobody there to stop them.

Who is moderating the moderators?

lead zeppelin 30th Dec 2010 22:43

Higgins LOVES the Rattlesnake

GoreTex 31st Dec 2010 06:42

A380
you think their only problem is bad teeth
YouTube - Swedish vs. British Nightclubs

CAVnotOK 31st Dec 2010 07:48

Hahaha, that's some funny sh*t!

I think the argument is over, very clear who the Losers are.

Happy New Year!
Cav.


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